And even though you may not have anything to offer them to replace the "answers" that they have now, it will probably be enough for them to see that that the group they're with now is dishonest, corrupt, and criminal.
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Former Bible Study Wants to Talk...
by tall penguin inokay, here's the update.
i sent an email to my former bible study after a phone conversation we had where i told her i'd disassociated myself.
in the email, i included information about the shunning practice (which she had no idea about).
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Irma Brown's School of Discipline
by Frannie Banannie inhttp://www.bygbaby.com/ghettomess/beatthatass.wmv
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that was great! Muchas gracias.
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Stupididty is not a crime...(Heinlein)
by upside/down inrobert heinlein once said taht " stupidity is not a crime, however, it is often fatal.
" he also said lots of other cool stuff.
i am free, no matter what rules surround me.
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Wow, the only thing I ever read by Heinlein was Have Spacesuit, Will Travel, and that was when I was like ten or eleven. I think I'll have to check out some of his other books now.
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"Grateful for God's Protection"
by Scully ini just unsubscribed from a crafting newsletter that i have been receiving for a couple of years.
all along, i have been willing to overlook the "uber-christian" leanings because they offered some neat things like free fonts and cute scrapbooking ideas.
but today they had a feature called "customer spotlight" that just irked the heck out of me:.
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In fact at the end she gave thanks for the protection of the entire community (not her family) that she felt was protected by God and everyone's prayers.
good lord, how could this person not see that it's exactly the same thing?! As you said, Scully - "There were still hundreds of thousands of people whose lives were RUINED forever, because of "God's" willy-nilly brand of "protection"."
Blech. You just can't fix dumb.
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"Grateful for God's Protection"
by Scully ini just unsubscribed from a crafting newsletter that i have been receiving for a couple of years.
all along, i have been willing to overlook the "uber-christian" leanings because they offered some neat things like free fonts and cute scrapbooking ideas.
but today they had a feature called "customer spotlight" that just irked the heck out of me:.
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You're definitely not alone, Scully. That type of sentence, which people invariably spit out after some major disaster, makes me want to projectile vomit all over them, and then ask, "Where's your God now?"
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Service Meeting for Week Starting October 3, 2005
by TheListener insong 54.
5 min: local announcements.. 20 min: "help others to become 'obedient from the heart.
'" * as time permits, invite audience to comment on the cited scriptures.. 20 min: making jehovah's heart rejoice.
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Among the things that might be mentioned are diligent personal Bible study, regular meeting attendance, association with other loyal ones, whole-souled participating in the field ministry, heartfelt prayer, and avoiding unwholesome entertainment.
Oh, that's rich. First of all, I like how they use the word "might", as if the guy giving the talk is gonna read that and say, "Well, it says 'might', so I don't really have to talk about that list of things there, I'll talk about something else." If he did that you can bet he wouldn't be doing service meeting parts for a while.
And in view of the "new light" that was just given at the last district convention about not taking for granted that a JW is good association just because he's baptized and regular, pretty soon they're gonna have to post a list of who's loyal and who's not. Otherwise people might unwittingly find themselves hanging out with wolves in sheep's clothing. You know, like the elders.
It really gets to me how Proverbs 27:11 is tossed in as the scriptural punctuation for just about every crackpot piece of "counsel" they throw out. The way they use it basically allows them to say, "Do what we tell you or you're going to prove yourself unwise, and you'll probably make God cry you miserable little ingrate."
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Book Study Wk 15 10/03: pg 105-107: A RIDDLE SOLVED
by ithinkisee in*** dp chap.
7 four words that changed the world ***.
a riddle solved!.
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:Oh, and how about this fiction that the witnesses believe: that religion is losing it's power over people.
I think they keep spouting that just to try to reinforce the belief in active JW's that they're in the "True" religion. Call everyone else a bastard son of Satan and by default you come out smelling like roses, right?
Man, the more time I have away from reading and studying the JW drivel, the more it stands out as being completely desperate and insane.
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Wohooo ... last university assignment finished !
by Simon init feels soooo good having finished the last assignment for the open university courses i've been doing - the 18th one this year .
now i just have to revise for the exams (3 of them over 2 days) ... and if i get at least 40% then i pass, get an extra qualification and we get extra immigration points to get us on our way to canada.
anything extra is a bonus ... distinctions would be nice but i need to get 85% in the exams for that.. although i resent the impact of the wts on my life and not being able to go to university when i should, this actually isn't a bad way to do it - you don't run up massive debts like current students do and because you have more experience probably do better at a subject than if you are starting out.
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: Anyway, I just wanted to say that it's never too late to pick up your life after the WTS and DO SOMETHING. What are you waiting for? Don't complain that the WTS denied you further education ... go out and make it happen!
just started two weeks ago :) (how does everyone do those crazy animated icons?)
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SHOULD I PIONEER OR COLLEGE?
by stillAwitness indo you think the wt has become more lenient or stricter over the year?.
i am 21 and i remember just 4 years ago going to college was looked at as something negative.
girls my age, we had plans to be ft pioneers and become secretaries.
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Welcome to the board Stilla!
I'm a few years older than you and I just started my freshman year too, and I love it. By all means stay in college, no matter what you hear from people in the Kingdom Hall.
As Miss Peaches said, you've obviously got an analytical mind that prompted you to research and question the WTBTS teachings, so I'm sure you'll love college.
The only thing I regret about school was that I didn't go sooner. And even if you are a bit (although not much) older than the other students, chances are you'll be a lot more motivated to be there and apply yourself.
And, if your unsure which direction you want your studies to go, most Universities have a Career Planning Center which, in my experience, has been a wonderful resource. Definitely stay in school.
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Depression Therpy
by Pbanna ini suffer from depression and have been on meds, but now i choose not to take them.
i am thinking of going back into just "therepy" but my question is do jws beleive in therepy?
im not a jw but i do read and beleive the jw way.
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Welcome to the board Pbanna!
I can tell you from first hand experience that the elders are the absolute worst people on earth to talk to about depression. On a few different occasions I went to them regarding severe depression, substance abuse and self-injurious behavior, and all they did was lecture me on the importance of treating the body that God gave me with more respect. I always left feeling a hundred times worse than I did before. And nothing they said ever helped. The elders are in NO WAY qualified to deal with depression, chemical dependence, anxiety, or any other psychological issue.
Once I figured out that they were actually putting me in danger by increasing the guilt and shame that I already felt, I decided to never again speak to them again about anything, ever. I did see a professionally trained psychologist(I've actually been to a few), and I did so while still in. While some in the congregation(the few that knew) expressed concern that it might be dangerous, the fact is, they were just dead wrong. Talk therapy had none of the elements that I had been led to believe would try to weaken my faith. It was completely the opposite, in fact. Talk therapy was one of the most helpful things I could have ever done for myself. Psychologists and psychiatrists are trained to help people, not shame them. I am still on medication for my depression, but it has gotten much better. With the help of my doctor, psychologist, and other trained specialists in the medical field I was able to find a combination of medication and different support networks that worked for me and allowed me to start feeling better and taking an active part in my life again.
I think that you will find that the loving support you get on this discussion board is also very helpful. It has been for me, at least. It's a great place to come to connect with others who might be going through similar issues, or to just vent some emotions if you need to.
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