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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  Cognitive_Dissident

  Daniel-p, lol, you're right. I got a little too excited by the large number I guess. But hey, 3000 is still pretty admirable, right?
  
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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  "Viewed: 28,234 times"
  
  Now that's just beautiful! That's more than the population of the town I grew up in.
  
  No wonder the Org is pushing the dangers of the Internet, because they can't control the flow of information.
  
  Be afraid, Brooklyn. Be very afraid.
  
  p.s. Danny, what is your myspace address? I can't find it in a search.
  
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  Hey all you musicians out there, I've got an idea...

  by Cognitive_Dissident in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so in reading various posts, it's apparent that there are quite a few musicians who post on this board.

  here's my idea, anyone interested in recording a track or two, and then sending it as a wav file to some of the others, who could then add there own tracks and send it back?

  it could go from one person to the next, to the next, etc., or it could go out to a bunch of people to see the variety of creative responses to the same original track.

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  I play guitar, bass, drums, and some piano. I love collaborating with people on music. I enjoy the way other people's musical ideas change my own creative process. Do you play professionally?
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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  Cognitive_Dissident

  If, hopefully, this news will have the impact that Barb thinks it will, I think we should all start thinking of how we can help and support all those whose lives will no doubt be falling apart in the weeks to come.
  
  If the WTB&TS indeed is unequivocally exposed as the lying organization that we know them to be, there will be thousands who will be going through the same painful process that we all are familiar with. We are in the unique position to cushion the harsh effects of that event. Let's all try to help whoever we can in coming to terms with the nature of The Organization.
  
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  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

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  Cognitive_Dissident

  All right, you've got my full attention!
  
  My overactive imagination is just running with all the possibilities. I'm already thinking of everyone I know who is out and opposed to the WTBTS who doesn't post here, and who I'm going to inform of the coming news.
  
  And I'm going over possible ways to approach all those I know who are either out and trying to get back, or are in and probably want to get out.
  
  Thanks for the heads up, Barb!
  
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  Hey all you musicians out there, I've got an idea...

  by Cognitive_Dissident in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so in reading various posts, it's apparent that there are quite a few musicians who post on this board.

  here's my idea, anyone interested in recording a track or two, and then sending it as a wav file to some of the others, who could then add there own tracks and send it back?

  it could go from one person to the next, to the next, etc., or it could go out to a bunch of people to see the variety of creative responses to the same original track.

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  Darn, it's too bad you've got no way of recording right now. The cello is the coolest sounding instrument of all time, I love it. I don't play it, unfortunately, but I love it.
  
  If you do get some way, and you're interested, let me know. I think we could come up with a framework to work within/around.
  
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  Hey all you musicians out there, I've got an idea...

  by Cognitive_Dissident in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so in reading various posts, it's apparent that there are quite a few musicians who post on this board.

  here's my idea, anyone interested in recording a track or two, and then sending it as a wav file to some of the others, who could then add there own tracks and send it back?

  it could go from one person to the next, to the next, etc., or it could go out to a bunch of people to see the variety of creative responses to the same original track.

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  Cognitive_Dissident

  So in reading various posts, it's apparent that there are quite a few musicians who post on this board.
  
  Here's my idea, anyone interested in recording a track or two, and then sending it as a wav file to some of the others, who could then add there own tracks and send it back?
  
  It could go from one person to the next, to the next, etc., or it could go out to a bunch of people to see the variety of creative responses to the same original track. Or some other thing that I haven't thought of.
  
  Any takers?
  
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  D'Fing and Love

  by I-CH-TH-U-S in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i once talked to a jw about disfellowshipping and was curious to how can this be showing a christly love when you all out turn your back on them.

  he gave me an answer about rightousness and unrightrousness having no fellowship (which is biblical) but it didnt make sense to me.

  didnt seem applicable in many ways.

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  Anewme, I just know that the experience you describe with the elders, and the whole process that you've gone through with the actions and reactions of those at the kingdom hall is, in my experience and from almost all that I have talked to, most definitely the exception to the rule.
  
  I think it's great that that is the way it's happening for you, I really do. But my personal experience was about as opposite as its possible for it to have been. My elders did ask me horribly embarassing questions, and took almost three months to respond to my many attempts to meet with them, letters unacknowledged, empty promises to talk to the others on the JC to set up a meeting.
  
  On the topic of tough love as used by families with members with substance abuse problems, I've got experience with that. And it's night and day from the DF'ing policy. When a family member is using and you have to make the decision to cut off contact, for the sake of the safety of the other family members, you don't just show them the door and tell them to write you a letter in about nine months to a year asking if they can be a member of the family again. You still check up on that person, and do everything within reason to make sure they are ok. It didn't mean that I wouldn't say hello to my family member in public, or have lunch in public, or help move, or any of those things. It was a private safeguard that was absolutely necessary. And all in the family were completely aware of WHY it was necessary.
  
  Shunning is used to incite shame, tough love is not.
  
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  D'Fing and Love

  by I-CH-TH-U-S in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i once talked to a jw about disfellowshipping and was curious to how can this be showing a christly love when you all out turn your back on them.

  he gave me an answer about rightousness and unrightrousness having no fellowship (which is biblical) but it didnt make sense to me.

  didnt seem applicable in many ways.

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  Cognitive_Dissident

  Not to mention your own topic on quoting scriptures from different parts of the Bible. I still say, whats wrong with that. Jesus did it.
  
  According to Matthew 4:6, Satan was the one who was good at lifting scriptures out of context.
  
  Granted, in those verses, the story goes that Jesus also quoted scripture, as rebuttal, but why assume that when a scripture is quoted at a Kingdom Hall it's automatically on the side of truth and right? Does it mean then that if it can be proved that the Society does pull scriptures out of context, in order to motivate people to do things the original scriptures don't imply, that they're taking a page out of Satan's playbook?
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  Why do so many people NEED to believe in a greater purpose?

  by gringojj in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am an atheist.

  i believe that this is the only life we have, there is nothing more.

  i have no greater purpose.

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  Cognitive_Dissident

  You are not a dog. You are a god. - auldsoul
  
  that reminds of the one about the dislexic agnostic insomniac who laid awake at night wondering if there really is a dog.
  
  Why do so many NEED to believe in a higher purpose? I think people use the idea of some higher purpose to motivate themselves to do things that they don't otherwise want to do. Create an equation whose answer makes you feel better about your own situation. I think a lot of people simply aspire to some higher purpose because they're plagued with the question of "What if?" What if there is something more? What if this life isn't all there is? Will I get supremely f**ked if I don't try to live my life "better" than I am? That question used to bug me as Witness, only it was, "What if I'm striving to live life by this extremely rigid set of guidelines, and it turns out to be the wrong guidelines?"
  
  My philosophy for the time being is that there is no summum bonum(there's a joke waiting to be made there). The concept of God is a construct developed by humans to try to create order out of the chaos.
  
  My dog is happy when I get down on all fours and try to wrestle his toy squirrel from him. Maybe my dog is actually playing with me because his God has told him that selfless love is the highest canine aspiration. What better way for a dog to get to heaven than do what he knows will make me smile. Maybe dogs are the ones that really have it all figured out.
  
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