Posts by MrTheocratic

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Worshiping a piece of stone

by FedUpJW in

today one of the members of the local congregation who is somewhat limited intellectually was showing off a small bit of cut granite stone.

as he did so he made sure to let everyone know that it was given to him by the congregation service overseer who just completed his second or third round of bragging rights slave labor at warwick.

he mentioned that, "brother _______ gave this to me as a piece of reality from warwick.

MrTheocratic

That reminds me when I was in Bethel.....the friends in the congregation would love anything they thought was from bethel.

For example: after bookstudy one night we had goodie night. Everyone was to bring some sort of dish or desert. Well on my way to the meeting from Brooklyn I stopped at the commissary to pick up 3 packs of Pepperidge farm soft chocolate cookies. I put them in a plastic container and bought them. Before I could say anything the bookstudy conductor announces to the entire group before the closing prayer " please don't leave imediately after prayer, our dear bethel brother would like to share some Kingdom Cookies with us".

You would fall out laughing at how these people gobbled these cookies up...as if the finger of God had made them.

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If An Organization Really Believed It Had the Truth...

by xjwsrock in

....it would not be scared of critics.

actually they would naturally take an offensive stance, wouldn't they?

they would welcome debate... even encourage it.

MrTheocratic

Well said xjwsrock.......there is no excuse.

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Hi Everyone

by Wayward in

jw
friends

i just came over from jwr.

a little background: my mom converted to the witnesses when i was five.

i was baptized at 14, was mentally out by 18, and successfully faded by the time i was 25. mom and both my younger sisters and their families are still in.

MrTheocratic

Nice to meet you. At 25 I was fully in ......pioneering and serving as a ministerial servant. What I would give to have that time back.

Anyway welcome

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Trump could be the new 1914

by MrTheocratic in

if wwi did not happen in 1914 the jw religion may not have survived.

many back then were already disillusioned with the fact that they were not taking to heaven.

some left.

MrTheocratic

If WWI did not happen in 1914 the JW religion may not have survived. Many back then were already disillusioned with the fact that they were not taking to heaven. Some left. Then WW1 happened and the JWs started saying "see 1914 had some significance", and the religion hasn't stopped since.

After listening to Donald Trump and his anti radical islam agenda...he could be the very thing that keeps the JW religion alive. All it will take is another attack on the scale of 9/11 and he would have the whole country, both democrats and Republicans behind him to go after islam.

You could hear the Jw's now " THIS IS THE START OF THE GREAT TRIBULATION". Then all those bunker videos we have been seeing from the RC'S will come to life.

So the way I see it Jw leadership is praying that Trump wins in November.

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Are the witnesses really False prophets?

by MrTheocratic in

when you read the following statements from the wt.

organization... do they satisfy you?

or better stated...... should you be satisfied by there answers?.

MrTheocratic

Sparrowdown........

No I do not. It just amazes me that many Jdubs put complete trust in every word they read from this organization..and then proceed to make life altering decisions based off these "published ideas".

If we are all wrong and this organization was and is God's mouthpiece. ..then God would need to apologize for the lives ruined due to heeding the advice of his organization.

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Are the witnesses really False prophets?

by MrTheocratic in

when you read the following statements from the wt.

organization... do they satisfy you?

or better stated...... should you be satisfied by there answers?.

MrTheocratic

When you read the following statements from the Wt. Organization... do they satisfy you? Or better stated...... should you be satisfied by there answers?

Question (reasoning book-- Have not Jehovah’s Witnesses made errors in their teachings?

Answer------- Jehovah’s Witnesses do not claim to be inspired prophets. They have made mistakes. Like the apostles of Jesus Christ, they have at times had some wrong expectations.—Luke 19:11; Acts 1:6.

It is true that the Witnesses have made mistakes in their understanding of what would occur at the end of certain time periods, but they have not made the mistake of losing faith or ceasing to be watchful as to fulfillment of Jehovah’s purposes. They have continued to keep to the fore in their thinking the counsel given by Jesus: “Keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day your Lord is coming" Matthew 24:42

The jv book( page 104 )says this about 1975

In the years following 1966, many of Jehovahs Witnesses acted in harmony with the spirit of that counsel. However other statements were published on this subject, And Some Were Likely more definite than advisable. This was acknowledged in the Watchtower 1980 March 15th page 17.

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Is shunning unscriptual?

by MrTheocratic in

international version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.

do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.

.how does one explain this scripture?.

MrTheocratic

Thanks guys ......every ones comments have been very informative. I can finally see that the shunning done by the witnesses is wrong and evil.

Thanks again

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Is shunning unscriptual?

by MrTheocratic in

international version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.

do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.

.how does one explain this scripture?.

MrTheocratic

So let me see if I understand

A person can only be shunned if they are fake Christians. For example ..Bro. Smith is trying to remain in the Congregation but won't give up immorality. He should be shunned according to this scripture.

But once he leaves ....you can resume association with him.

That does not seem right to me.

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Is shunning unscriptual?

by MrTheocratic in

international version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.

do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.

.how does one explain this scripture?.

MrTheocratic

@freddo

Either way you put it...the person who "claims" to be a brother does not practice christian living...so what should be done with him?

This scripture says shun him.

Am I missing something? (No sarcasm meant)

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Is shunning unscriptual?

by MrTheocratic in

international version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.

do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.

.how does one explain this scripture?.

MrTheocratic

We can't totally blame the witnesses for there stance. The practice of shunning is found in the Bible.

Robo Bobo

"anyone who claims to be a brother or sister" - this is not talking about someone formerly baptized who decides they want nothing to do with the religion

I don't think that thought is in line with what this Scripture says. It clearly is an admonition to stop mixing in company with anyone who was Formerly a brother but who now chooses to live another life.