This topic reminds me of an experience I had a few years ago...
I got my purse snatched and though I got a good look at the guy, he ran away before I could catch up with him. I went to the police precinct and viewed a few books of mug-shots...lo and behold I see one of the ministerial servants among the mug-shots! I don't know what he did, but it was a recent picture (at the time) and he was still a MS in good standing. Hmmmmmn....
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my thoughts are with you on your first birthday as a free person.
Happy (belated) Richie!
i was on the phone speaking with verne thoren, presiding overseer of the willow springs, nc congregation of jehovah's witnesses.
he tells me he knows of my possesssion of the flock book.
he knows of my involvement on this site.
((((((Richie))))))
Hope it went as well as could be expected and that you & your mom come thru this all ok.
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use whatever you want, but here's what i find useful:.
*dead*
Richie you are truly an amazing young man (and funny as he!!)
page 31. the "empty thing" they keep "muttering," or meditating on, is the continuation of their own sovereignty.
nothing shakes them more than any threat to their rulership.
.. the worldwide preaching of the established kingdom of god done by jehovah's witnesses has become just such a threat to the nations.
I'm with Scully...Delusions of Grandeur for sure!
Also, with statements like this:
The worldwide preaching of the established Kingdom of God done by Jehovah's Witnesses has become just such a threat to the nations.They had better watch their backs before the Homeland Security agents come and lock them up in FEMA camps!
ok, its happened again!
but not to me this time, my 12 year old son.. last night he fell asleep on the couch, so i left him there and went to bed.
he wolk up about 3 am, and walked upstairs to his bedroom.
Some people have a very difficult time believing something scientist can't explain, but then again, scientists can only evaulate the material world - they do not have the tools to do otherwise.
That's the gist of the "Holographic Universe" book I mentioned earlier in this thread. Science does have the capability of exploring the quantum world beyond the material universe and by doing so sheds much light on so-call paranormal phenomena. You might want to check out some of physicist David Bohm's work...truly mind-blowing stuff.
ok, its happened again!
but not to me this time, my 12 year old son.. last night he fell asleep on the couch, so i left him there and went to bed.
he wolk up about 3 am, and walked upstairs to his bedroom.
My 2-cents:
1 - Lucid Dreams - http://www.lucidity.com/LucidDreamingFAQ2.html#LD
2 - I *highly* recommend reading this book "The Holographic Universe" by Michael Talbot...it's a sub-theory of quantum physics that can help explain paranormal phenomena.
You can scan the table of contents, exerpts etc here :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/reader/0060922583/ref=sib_dp_pt/102-3847899-2145743#reader-link
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controversial christian faction believes jesus was nailed to 2 parallel pieces of wood!
(now nail that to your torture stake!
Controversial Christian Faction Believes Jesus was Nailed to 2 Parallel Pieces of Wood! (now nail THAT to your torture stake!)
i was reading coc last night and i started pondering over minimus' post of how the dubs are saying this is the last memorial and the end is finally here.
then i remembered the teaching that the first setoff to the big a. any thoughts on this?.
luv, jojo
Maryjane, something like "This good news of the kingdom will be preached throughout the whole earth, and then the end will come."Sound familiar?
Of course...lol But somewhere in the back of my mind I remember something to the effect that the society would formally stop the preaching work after Jehovah gives them the hi sign (i.e. it wouldn't be rudely interrupted by the great tribulation but would stop in advance)
...then jesus lied about how to identify the false prophets.. ...then jesus lied about the sign of his presence and of the conclusion of the system of things.. ...then the watchtower bible and tract society disassociated itself from true christianity through a repeated lack of neutrality.. ...then i will happily die at armageddon knowing i stood up against a god who supported a deceitful earthly corporation as his own.. but, i am not afraid they are right.
respectfully,.
auldsoul
If witnesses are living in a spiritual paradise at the Kingdom Hall, then paradise must be a very very very dull place. Just picture an eternity of sitting at boring meetings and assemblies subjected to the same kind of "instruction from Jehovah" that some of us have been listening to for over 40 years already. I think after 1000 years of that I would be praying for the second death!Also, think of every annoying, judgemental, self-righteous, pompous JW you ever knew. If witnesses were right we would have to spend eternity with these people! Actually, I'm hoping the Catholics are right and I'm going to keep good company with the sinners in Hell. Look forward to seeing ya there Auld Soul. We'll meet up with tetrapod and sick of lies and have some laughs and some drinks!
Wasn't there something in a WT about "new books" in the new system? The fun and learning never ends!
I'm with you tho...I'd rather not exist than to spend eternity with a bunch of robots devoid of free will and true spirituality. They seem to think they're spiritual yet the thing holding them in the organization is fear of destruction/alienation from Jehovah. I'm not saying they don't love God, but it's almost like they're forced to worship (or else). That's not spirituality at all.
