Posts by mdb

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Hi I am new here!!!!!

by lucifer in

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my mom told me about this site im embarrassed to tell yahs who she is haha,kidding shes legolas, lets see i left the "truth" aka the lie in june, although we stopped going a year ago, i just want to see if i can learn more about the lies in the cult because my old best friend works with me but she is a jw and she acts like i dont exist, i want to tell her somthing thats a real shocker and maybe shell come to her senses, any ideas??!

i just want to say hi to jordan....so hi!!!!

mdb

Satan is the enemy of God and of man. Not only Satan, but anyone who will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God. The devil cares nothing for man, but wants to devour as many as he can while he has time. "? Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion , walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:" "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God . Do ye think that the scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us lusteth to envy ? But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble. Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. Draw nigh to God, and he will draw nigh to you. Cleanse your hands, ye sinners; and purify your hearts, ye double minded. Be afflicted, and mourn, and weep: let your laughter be turned to mourning, and your joy to heaviness. Humble yourselves in the sight of the Lord, and he shall lift you up." I never said you believed in the Bible. I suppose that's a choice you have to make.

Did you believe in the Bible before you left the WTS? Is it because of the WTS that you no longer believe? If your idea of the Bible is the "New World Translation", then you've never read the true Word of God. The NWT is a false translation and has been translated to support the WTS doctrinal bias. God promises that if you seek Him with all your heart, he will be found. There is only one God and one truth and He is found in the God-man Jesus Christ, who died for you that you might have life. Put your trust in Him " for there is no other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved ."

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Dont be so hard on satan

by gringojj in

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i think people forget that satan was a creation of god, just like all of us and everything else.

obviously god had a purpose in creating satan.

god has love for everyone and everything, including satan.

mdb

Nowhere did I accuse you of having already quoted scripture.

Granted. I jumped the gun here.

As for the Roman Catholic Church, they pray to and bow down before statues of Mary (idolatry) and pray to deceased saints (consulting the dead) and are not of the faith. I don't want to get into talking about the Roman Cathilic Church so I avoided the reference.

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Hi I am new here!!!!!

by lucifer in

jw
friends

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my mom told me about this site im embarrassed to tell yahs who she is haha,kidding shes legolas, lets see i left the "truth" aka the lie in june, although we stopped going a year ago, i just want to see if i can learn more about the lies in the cult because my old best friend works with me but she is a jw and she acts like i dont exist, i want to tell her somthing thats a real shocker and maybe shell come to her senses, any ideas??!

i just want to say hi to jordan....so hi!!!!

mdb

Why do YOU want to know why she called herself that?

A question of curiosity. It sure got a couple of people's underwear bunched in a knot.

Why would you label yourself with the name of the enemy (lucifer)?

Strange thing to do since you say you've left the WTS. Since the WTS does not have the truth, it is a deception created by lucifer to lead people away from God's truth. Why then, if you have left the WTS and believe it to be a lie, whould you name yourself by the name of the father of lies?

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Dont be so hard on satan

by gringojj in

jw
friends

i think people forget that satan was a creation of god, just like all of us and everything else.

obviously god had a purpose in creating satan.

god has love for everyone and everything, including satan.

mdb

Then I don't want to see you quoting the Bible, which is generally just as reputable as any source I cited, deal?

If you want to cite your references, that's up to you, but these references in question have no weight with me (and apparently you have no concern for the Bible). You're certainly not going to quit posting your ideas and I am making no deals with you that I should resign from quoting the scriptures. I will proclaim the words of God because despite what you believe, they are truth and point to Jesus Christ who is the only source of life.

Interestingly, during our conversations thus far, I have yet to quote a single verse even though you accuse me of it (not to say I won't start).

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Hi I am new here!!!!!

by lucifer in

jw
friends

.

my mom told me about this site im embarrassed to tell yahs who she is haha,kidding shes legolas, lets see i left the "truth" aka the lie in june, although we stopped going a year ago, i just want to see if i can learn more about the lies in the cult because my old best friend works with me but she is a jw and she acts like i dont exist, i want to tell her somthing thats a real shocker and maybe shell come to her senses, any ideas??!

i just want to say hi to jordan....so hi!!!!

mdb

Daystar, It's a legitimate question which you and a couple others have taken apon themselves to answer for her. Let her speak if she chooses. What matter is it of yours? I'm curious as to her reasoning, not you disapproval of my question.

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Hi I am new here!!!!!

by lucifer in

jw
friends

.

my mom told me about this site im embarrassed to tell yahs who she is haha,kidding shes legolas, lets see i left the "truth" aka the lie in june, although we stopped going a year ago, i just want to see if i can learn more about the lies in the cult because my old best friend works with me but she is a jw and she acts like i dont exist, i want to tell her somthing thats a real shocker and maybe shell come to her senses, any ideas??!

i just want to say hi to jordan....so hi!!!!

mdb

What are you doing highjacking a thread intended to welcome a newbie?

If I recall, he didn't write the thread to say hi, he asked a question which apparently nobody has answered yet.

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Dont be so hard on satan

by gringojj in

jw
friends

i think people forget that satan was a creation of god, just like all of us and everything else.

obviously god had a purpose in creating satan.

god has love for everyone and everything, including satan.

mdb

Thoughts on Lucifer v. Satan

The sites you refer to are of the "New age movement" and of cultic origin. "Wisdomworld" is a Theosophical site (The Synthesis of Science, Religion and Philosophy) which is a humanistic view of religion and God - men trying to find truth another way because they want nothing to do with the one true God. If they accept the God of Israel, the creator and sustainer of life, then they cannot live their lives their own way since the way of man is of the flesh, worldly, and opposed to God.

Another place you get your information is from the LDS (mormons). They are in the same position as the Watchtower Society and do not have the truth. In fact, they are worse off. In the higher ranks, they admit that Satan is the God of the Mormon church and many of their temple rituals mirror those from Freemasonry. I'm sure you're aware of Freemasonry (Masonic Lodge) and what they stand for and do behind closed doors.

As you said, these are "Thoughts on Lucifer v. Satan", not fact, and come from sources which are not reputable. Sorry, try again.

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Hi I am new here!!!!!

by lucifer in

jw
friends

.

my mom told me about this site im embarrassed to tell yahs who she is haha,kidding shes legolas, lets see i left the "truth" aka the lie in june, although we stopped going a year ago, i just want to see if i can learn more about the lies in the cult because my old best friend works with me but she is a jw and she acts like i dont exist, i want to tell her somthing thats a real shocker and maybe shell come to her senses, any ideas??!

i just want to say hi to jordan....so hi!!!!

mdb

mdb...God's truth....that is an 'OXYMORON' if I ever heard of one!
We don't give a @&%^ about the bible or believe it to be true!

What is truth? Who decides what is right or wrong... you or me?

Truth is not what is good for you or good for me. The truth is absolute and God is truth. Who makes the rules? Who put the stars in place, created gravity, caused the world to revolve around the sun, knit your body in your mother's womb? All creation testifies that God exists and if He is the creator, then He is in control and determines what is truth.

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Hi I am new here!!!!!

by lucifer in

jw
friends

.

my mom told me about this site im embarrassed to tell yahs who she is haha,kidding shes legolas, lets see i left the "truth" aka the lie in june, although we stopped going a year ago, i just want to see if i can learn more about the lies in the cult because my old best friend works with me but she is a jw and she acts like i dont exist, i want to tell her somthing thats a real shocker and maybe shell come to her senses, any ideas??!

i just want to say hi to jordan....so hi!!!!

mdb

Prove it. Or is that just your idea?

The only alternate translation for the name Jesus is 'Joshua'.

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Hi I am new here!!!!!

by lucifer in

jw
friends

.

my mom told me about this site im embarrassed to tell yahs who she is haha,kidding shes legolas, lets see i left the "truth" aka the lie in june, although we stopped going a year ago, i just want to see if i can learn more about the lies in the cult because my old best friend works with me but she is a jw and she acts like i dont exist, i want to tell her somthing thats a real shocker and maybe shell come to her senses, any ideas??!

i just want to say hi to jordan....so hi!!!!

mdb

Why would you label yourself with the name of the enemy (lucifer)?

Strange thing to do since you say you've left the WTS. Since the WTS does not have the truth, it is a deception created by lucifer to lead people away from God's truth. Why then, if you have left the WTS and believe it to be a lie, whould you name yourself by the name of the father of lies?