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by knight in

i have read the various posts here an i have my own story to tell i amstill a witness not as active as i used to be but stillfaithful i think the main problem that jws have is that they put c.o's m.s's elders and the like on pedestals and when you do that you set yourself up for a letdown and when that person does something you dont think is right you are letdown but one should not let this block his/her relationship with jehovah.

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devilsadvocate_da,
about your question, i think i mentioned who was involved in my reply to Prisca before. an elder.

appointment before was done democratically but now is done theocratically.

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i am new

by knight in

i have read the various posts here an i have my own story to tell i amstill a witness not as active as i used to be but stillfaithful i think the main problem that jws have is that they put c.o's m.s's elders and the like on pedestals and when you do that you set yourself up for a letdown and when that person does something you dont think is right you are letdown but one should not let this block his/her relationship with jehovah.

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outnfree,
can you explain 'spokesman' as you understand it? the reason being, i'm not too sure of how you view it. 'spokesman' is a person who speaks in behalf of others or a group, a mediator, a go-between. so if they're just individuals representing Jehovah, who are they supposed to mediate in between?

also, Jerusalem fell twice.

if the line of channel used by Jah can't be proved clearly as claimed & therefore, no organization, how would one call Jesus' organizing his apostles & the early Christian congregation to do the ministry? without organization?

also, it's a free country, free expressions. if it's merely man's work, it will fail for sure. but if it's Jehovah's work & backing, it will prevail.

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i am new

by knight in

i have read the various posts here an i have my own story to tell i amstill a witness not as active as i used to be but stillfaithful i think the main problem that jws have is that they put c.o's m.s's elders and the like on pedestals and when you do that you set yourself up for a letdown and when that person does something you dont think is right you are letdown but one should not let this block his/her relationship with jehovah.

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outnfree
First thing's first. I also welcome Mr. Knight & do not intend nor wish to draw away the attention from him. It actually came as a surprise to me that my notes seems to get mixed & various reactions, evoking emotions at times, when the welcome on hand should be directed to Mr. Knight.

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i am new

by knight in

i have read the various posts here an i have my own story to tell i amstill a witness not as active as i used to be but stillfaithful i think the main problem that jws have is that they put c.o's m.s's elders and the like on pedestals and when you do that you set yourself up for a letdown and when that person does something you dont think is right you are letdown but one should not let this block his/her relationship with jehovah.

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TW,
Just a thought. Here's some real life situations: denial of Jesus by Peter on the night of his trial; constant argument of the apostles as to who is greatest among them despite corrections by Jesus; Peter's showing partiality between Jews & Gentiles corrected publicly by Paul; seeming favoritism in the distribution of food in the famine in Jerusalem between Jews & Gentiles, etc.
Men appointed by holy spirit but not perfect. Serious mistakes made to observers or fellow believers at the time. But Jehovah continued to use them for His purpose, provided they accept His correction. Jehovah knows of what happened then & He also knows of what's happening now. With being appointed by holy spirit, a privilege, comes a huge responsibility to use that wisely. Privilege given by Jah equals accountability to Jehovah. Be assured He will act in his time.

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i am new

by knight in

i have read the various posts here an i have my own story to tell i amstill a witness not as active as i used to be but stillfaithful i think the main problem that jws have is that they put c.o's m.s's elders and the like on pedestals and when you do that you set yourself up for a letdown and when that person does something you dont think is right you are letdown but one should not let this block his/her relationship with jehovah.

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hi dave/battman,
Before i go on, i'd like you to know that i'm not so sure of how you understand the term 'organization' based on your notes. As to Jehovah not having any organization at all, just individual men, pls. consider some examples. Abraham was God's spokesman for his large family & later on his descendants. Moses was God's spokesman in behalf of the Israelites. Jesus was God's spokesman who organized his apostles & later on disciples. After his death, this organization carried on in the work he gave them. Jesus himself set the precedent. I'm not sure of your meaning on organization, but basing it on your comments it seems that being organized implied being in the same place all the time? But isn't it true that being organized can also mean possibly being in different locations & yet same beliefs? For example, the prophets you were saying might be physically apart but are united in their preaching of the same message from Jehovah? Also, the early Christian congregation are based mainly on Jerusalem. But as the preaching work spread abroad, it would require arrangement & organization to function & succeed as it did. The proof is there of Jehovah's blessings for the congregations flourished. Organization by Jehovah is not only limited with men nor did it start with men. Even in the heavens, as shown in Ezekiel's vision, organization is evident. Organized armies of angels.
Another thing. We are urged by the apostle Paul not just to 'swallow' everything that's said. Acts 17:11 mentions Paul's commendation for the ancient Beroeans who 'received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so.' We are likewise encouraged to do the same.

66

i am new

by knight in

i have read the various posts here an i have my own story to tell i amstill a witness not as active as i used to be but stillfaithful i think the main problem that jws have is that they put c.o's m.s's elders and the like on pedestals and when you do that you set yourself up for a letdown and when that person does something you dont think is right you are letdown but one should not let this block his/her relationship with jehovah.

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TW,
Thanks.

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any similar experience?

by chris_mj_gum18 in

i'm also a newbie & was wondering if any brother or sister had gone thru this same experience?

any advice is welcome.

one knows 1 co 7:39 quite well among the witnesses.

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Prisca,
Thanks for the note. Nice illustration by the way of certain brothers compared to little boys selecting & picking in a sweet shop.

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i am new

by knight in

i have read the various posts here an i have my own story to tell i amstill a witness not as active as i used to be but stillfaithful i think the main problem that jws have is that they put c.o's m.s's elders and the like on pedestals and when you do that you set yourself up for a letdown and when that person does something you dont think is right you are letdown but one should not let this block his/her relationship with jehovah.

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Prisca,
Thanks for the note. Only one of the elders came a bit strong on his comments. The other one was just listening. I know Jehovah understands my situation. As to your questions, the Bible doesn't make a distinction between rp and publishers. It does urge all to give it our best efforts. Another thing, salvation is not earned by how many hours one puts in. The Bible stresses quality not quantity, heart motives in service. Salvation is not earned by works, it is a gift Jah gives. Works are there as part of faith. Individuals vary in their works due to circumstances.

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i am new

by knight in

i have read the various posts here an i have my own story to tell i amstill a witness not as active as i used to be but stillfaithful i think the main problem that jws have is that they put c.o's m.s's elders and the like on pedestals and when you do that you set yourself up for a letdown and when that person does something you dont think is right you are letdown but one should not let this block his/her relationship with jehovah.

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Mark,
I'm not sure what you meant. Are you pertaining to a particular time period?

66

i am new

by knight in

i have read the various posts here an i have my own story to tell i amstill a witness not as active as i used to be but stillfaithful i think the main problem that jws have is that they put c.o's m.s's elders and the like on pedestals and when you do that you set yourself up for a letdown and when that person does something you dont think is right you are letdown but one should not let this block his/her relationship with jehovah.

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larc,
just to let you know that i don't claim to be very good with Bible chronology or lineage, but i'll try to answer your questions as best as possible. here goes: From Adam to Noah-Abel, Seth, Enosh,...Jared, Enoch, Methuselah, Lamech & Noah. Noah had 3 sons, one of which is Shem..the list goes on to Nahor,Terah then to Abraham. When Jerusalem was destroyed, there was a remnant of the Jews that survived. Among these were the prophets i.e. Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, Abednego, Ezra, etc. The prophets guided the nation til Christ. Before the death of the last apostle, it was made clear that Christianity would be facing tough times ahead. Apostasy set in for a long time. But champions of Bible truth are still there, those who are willing to stake their own lives for the Bible. Efforts were made to silence the Bible but failed because of God's backing. This brings us to our modern time when CT Russell initiated a serious step back to Christianity as taught by Jesus himself.

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