Thanks! That was one of my favorites, melodywise. Since leaving the borg, everytime I caught myself humming it I'd stop myself, like I used to do if I caught myself humming an Xmas song. Now I can sing it to my hearts content. Thanks!
ChrisVance
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Song 42 for the New Kingdom Apostate.M's book
by qwerty inlink to midi http://www.l-and-a.com.au/comm/addons/midi/song042.mid.
song 42. this is the way.
(isaiah 30:20, 21).
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Help - WTS magazine donations VS. Sold & price
by Cappuccino OC indoes anyone know in which countries the wts asks for donations & in which countries the wts sells them?.
if the wts changed from selling to donations, what year was it?.
us - donations (from 1990 ?
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ChrisVance
In 1989 I visited Argentina and they were still asking for a set price, while in the US we were suppose to be asking for a donation. I say suppose to be, because I never heard a single witness I was with ask for a donation. I even mentioned that to some of my "friends" and they didn't want to talk about it.
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Don't shun if money is involved
by ChrisVance ini was disfellowshipped ten years ago.
in this time a cousin who is a jdub hasn't said boo to me.
then a couple of weeks ago i get a call from him about a legal matter.
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Scully - I did feel like calling him when his wife died, but I was afraid he'd either hang up on me or tell me he couldn't talk to a disfellowshiped person.
scumrat - you bet it frosts my ass. more about that later.
Room215 - interesting.
mommy1 - of course my lawyer wasn't available today, but I'm waiting until she is.
Valis - yea, I don't know where that response came from either, sorry.
This thing has made me realize just how angry I am, not only becuase of the shunning but also because of all the abuse I've received as a gay person from this church. Ever since I was 11 I've known I was gay and I internalized all the homophobia this church continually spouts.Then the only reason I get married is because the elders tell me it will "cure" me. Not only was this unfair to me, but also to the women I married. Idiots. Of course, I didn't go to college, (I'm doing it now at 52.) Then after 21 years of trying to be hetrosexual I leave my wife and give her way too much in the community property settlement becuase of all the guilt this church heaped upon me.Now there's the shunning and because of this cult I can't even have a normal relationship with my daughter. She's says she has no problem with my being gay, but she feels she must follow the orders of the borg.
When I left my x I gave her the yearly payments on this real estate contract that is the center of the whole controversy. The Com prop agreement says she gets the payments until she remarries, dies, or cohabits with a man. This cousin who bought the farm from my family wants to sell it along with all the other adjoining property his owns. The real estate contracts says he can't payoff the balance without the sellers consent, seller being defined as my mother, my brother, and me. (mother and brother are devout jdubs who have shuned me for the last 10 years.) His buyer doesn't want to take over the contract because it's nine percent and he won't buy unless he can buy the whole parcial The sale was 16 years ago when interest rates were higher. The cousin called me and suggested I negogiate with my xwife to split the proceeds, about $41,000. I'm sure she won't go along with that and I'm determined not to let her get the entire 41,000 at once. The contract would go on for seven more years, in which time it's possible she may marry or possibly die. This would then return the payments to me.
If I understand the contract right no payoff is possible without my signature, which explains why my cousin was being to nice. This means my brother and mother can't get their $41,000. Actually, the cousin's lawyer tipped me off on this. He said I'd want to be nice and sign so my mother and brother can get there money. HEHE. When I last talked to my cousin he said he could pay off my brother and mother and make arrangements to continue paying my x without my signing, but he doesn't like the idea. That's when I figured it out. He can't pay off my mother and brother without my signature, but they were going to go ahead and do it figuring I'd want my mother to get her share of the money and wouldn't say anything. Wrong. Funny how they always think that we who are shunned have no reason to be angry. Actually a similar things happened when I was still a jdub and of course I didn't say anything because I was such a dutifull son.
The contract says if my mother who is 80 dies her share of the payments are split between me and my brother. If she's paid off and dies before seven years are up I'm cheated out of my share. Anything that's left over would go to my brother. I'm sure I'm not in her will. So this payoff thing is defintely not to my advantage. Yesterday at about 5:00pm I emailed the cousin's lawyer and told him I'd figured out what they were up to. Funny thing, I haven't heard from him.
I've decided to use the whole thing to my advantage. If it's true that all payoffs are off without my signature, and I think it is, I'm going to tell my cousin and brother that all they have to is convince my x to let me have 3/4 quarters of the payoff. She's recieving a $1000 a month on my pension so I don't feel sorry for her. If they can't convince her they can make up the difference themselves. They both have lots of money. I'll even overlook that fact that they tried to cheat me. If they don't like my idea I'm better off leaving things the way they are. Then I'll explain that since they support a religion that has emotionally abused me most of my life, (not to mention participating in the abuse) I have no qualms about being so hard nosed with them.
As a side note, my mother has very little income so she pays little or no income tax on her yearly payments. If she gets it all at once she'll pay at least $10,000 in income tax and lose the nine percent interest. My jdub brother isn't thinking about her interests, he wants his $41,000. The cousin said my brother called my x saying she should be "christian" about the whole thing. Yes, he wants his money. That's my biggest fear, is that she'll be christian.
Any thoughts on this?
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Don't shun if money is involved
by ChrisVance ini was disfellowshipped ten years ago.
in this time a cousin who is a jdub hasn't said boo to me.
then a couple of weeks ago i get a call from him about a legal matter.
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My cousin called me severals times during the day. At 4:30 I answered the phone. I told him I thought it was pretty hypocritical to only talk to me when he wanted something. He said, "You didn't call me when my wife died." He didn't call me when my whole family disowned me either.
I have to check it with my lawyer, but it appears that he and my brother. both jdobs, are trying to pull a fast one on me. It's a good thing I didn't sign anything.
To be continued.
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Don't shun if money is involved
by ChrisVance ini was disfellowshipped ten years ago.
in this time a cousin who is a jdub hasn't said boo to me.
then a couple of weeks ago i get a call from him about a legal matter.
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Out4good3 - yes turnabout is fair play. I'm thinking about asking him why I shouldn't be as mean spirited as his religion.
Valis - he'd do anything for money.
Elsewhere - I love it.
Scully - your point is well taken.
Teirce - Your idea is a little complicated, but under serious consideration.
SYN - another good idea.
Scarlet - the point isn't that he's taking about busines, it's that he's being so friendly and chatty, trying to get something out of me which is contrary to jdub rules. He could have handled it throughis lawyer. In fact, his lawyer has already called me twice.
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Don't shun if money is involved
by ChrisVance ini was disfellowshipped ten years ago.
in this time a cousin who is a jdub hasn't said boo to me.
then a couple of weeks ago i get a call from him about a legal matter.
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I appreciate all your replies. I had several appointments this morning and when I returned home at 12 noon I had a message to call him. It seems he's already squirming. I'll have to be in just the right mood before I return the call. Although I don't really like the guy, I don't really want to cause him too much trouble, but a little squriming is nice.
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Don't shun if money is involved
by ChrisVance ini was disfellowshipped ten years ago.
in this time a cousin who is a jdub hasn't said boo to me.
then a couple of weeks ago i get a call from him about a legal matter.
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I was disfellowshipped ten years ago. In this time a cousin who is a jdub hasn't said boo to me. Then a couple of weeks ago I get a call from him about a legal matter. He needs my signature on a legal paper before he can go ahead with the sale of some property. (I sold him a small part of the property he's selling 16 years ago). He was as friendly and chatty as could be when he called. Told me all about what's going on in his life, his children's lives and anything else he could think of. Since there are some complications for me in this legal matter and I was on vacation for a week I haven't sent the paper to his lawyer yet. At 8:00 this morning I got another call from him. Just as warm and friendly as could be. Needs that paper signed, but when the matter's all done I'll never hear from him again. The sale of this property means lots of money for him so of course shunning isn't necessary. Typical hipocritical jdub.
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Prayer does it work for you?
by haujobbz inhello everyone more questions as usual, do you think praying ever helped you or was it just like talking to the air, its funny because when i was i jw i did pray a lot and convinced myself it worked,but now i think about it, did it help me or was it what i wanted to believe.i mean i always seemed to say to myself b4 yeh praying really helps me in my life and when things went right 4 me like maybe being regular as a preacher,at meetings,and doing whats was right, i felt my prayers were answered but i think these things happened because i wanted them to be that way not because of praying you know like the placebo effect.you see just because you pray 4 something and coincidently it happens does it mean your prayers worked.
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ChrisVance
"Nothing failes like prayer. Use your mind and you will find that nothing fails like prayer." - Dan Barker
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Worst watchtower you tryed to place!!
by haujobbz in.
the worst magazines i tryed to place was about 13 months ago i think 1 was the watchower on witchcraft and the other was the elderly commiting suicide.i thought how the hell am i going to offer this mag on witchcraft, i think i ended giving them to the pioneers,i mean what sort of presentation could i use with this witchcraft article i suppose i could of spoke about the blair witch project and tell them how c:@p it was,i mean i loved horror films.and to make things worse the magazine about the elderly commiting suicide "oh god" that was a bad one especially when i had to offer it at an old peoples home.
so anyone on here what mags did you find terrible to place.
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ChrisVance
I remember in about 1967 sitting in the car overhearing a "sister" present an article in the awake, "Keeping cool in summer hear." The householder asked her: "What does that have to do with the bible?" I thought that's a good question, but the "sister," of course, was disgusted at the householder.
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Is Jehovah Irresponsible?
by Amazing inif i as a parent were to keep a pit bull or poisonous snake in my house, and it killed one of my children, what would the civil authorities do?
what would the media pundits and experts say about my parenting skills?
how would child services act had they known about the situation in advance?
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ChrisVance
If god's ways are unsearchable, why do the believers spend so much searching them?
"Nothing fails like prayer"