#1 George Carlin
#2 Robin Williams
#3 Steven Wright
circe
international of course:.
dave allen, irish standup (sit down drinking whisky actually).
bill cosby, love that fat albert.
#1 George Carlin
#2 Robin Williams
#3 Steven Wright
circe
this is the third damn time i have tried to post this.
i keep hitting the wrong button and losing it.. anyway, sometimes i hear songs on the radio that bring back some really great memories of my childhood and teenage years.
despite being raised in the borg, i had a pretty good life.
I thought the movie Fight Club was fascinating from the psychological standpoint. A person so ill at ease in his life that he unknowingly creates a real alter, - the ultimate alter ego.
First: YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO GIVE AWAY THE PLOT!
Second: I agree about liking the movie. I didn't think I would. It actually took me a couple of years after it had come out till I would agree to watch it. I thought, wrongly, that it was just another "guy movie" for guys who like movies (TBS plug there).
Music that has touched my life (either thru lyrics or voice or beat):
In My Life: The Beatles
Cry Little Sister: Sisters of Mercy
People are Strange: The Doors
I Love: Don Williams
Higher: Creed
Possesion: Sarah McLachlan
Dragula: Rob Zombie
Goodbye Blue Sky: Pink Floyd
Feelin' Groovy: Simon and Garfunkel
No One is to Blame: Howard Jones
Don't Give Up: Peter Gabriel and Kate Bush
There are too many to mention!
circe
believe it or not the motives are love, at least in my case.
i know that sometimes jw's on this board do not show that, but it goes the same with some ex-jw's too.. am i going against wt counsel?
yes, but i am willing to pay the price to help my fellow man, specially if i see that they blinded by resentment and are going contrary to jehovah's will.. why does the wt give the counsel to stay away from site such as this?
Also, do not put bad motives behind my words. I have love even for those of you that hate all JW's, although you do not know 1/2% of the 6 million of them.
I can't put bad motives behind your words because I don't even know you (unless we got to know each other on H20 and you've changed your handle).
I absolutely do not hate Jehovah's Witnesses. My mother is a Witness. My aunts and uncles are Witnesses. I have cousins and inlaws who are Witnesses. I used to have friends who are Witnesses. They are all, every one of them, great people whom I love very much!
I do not, however, agree with the doctrines that Witnesses teach. I think that doctrines like shunning and abstaining from blood are horrible and so must say that I hate those doctrines for the harm they do.
Circe
To Waiting:
I immediately pointed out the miss-wording of my husband's post to him as soon as I had read it. Whadayaknow, two posts down you pointed it out as well.
Personally, I'm not sure if my husband grew up much during the year we were in Michigan.
K'lyn (aka Circe)
it seems like to me the majority of people who are in the truth, are were in the truth was a result of either a family member are a friend witnessing to them and not many seem to have been found in the door to door work.. from my years of associating with the borg i cannot recall many coming in the truth from the door to door work.. how were you sucked in?
for me it was my aunt who has now even though i am not disfellowshipped decided to write me out of her will to the tune of about $150,000.00 (maybe i should hang around a couple more years)dont think i will.. please respond .
thanks.
I was raised as a Witness for the first 5 years of my life.
16 years later I was "re-introduced" when my mother started studying again.
The reason she studied in the first place was because of my uncle.
So my answer is: FAMILY influence.
Circe
"Wisdom and virtue are like the two wheels of a cart." Japanese Proverb
ok, the subject actually have nothing to do with what i'm writing about, just thought it would be a good attention getter - imagine using that in the door to door work.. anyways, the question on my mind tonight is - is it a good thing to forget about your jw past?
sometimes people leave to forget, i feel like i was starting to forget (and still am forgetting) as i discovered these forums.
what's wrong with me?
Uncle!
How have ya been? You're correct that I (and the Mr) do need a vacation! How's the weather down under and do you have a guest room?
circe
ok, the subject actually have nothing to do with what i'm writing about, just thought it would be a good attention getter - imagine using that in the door to door work.. anyways, the question on my mind tonight is - is it a good thing to forget about your jw past?
sometimes people leave to forget, i feel like i was starting to forget (and still am forgetting) as i discovered these forums.
what's wrong with me?
LDH,
Were you born into and raised as a Witness? I wasn't. I wasn't baptized till I was 21. I had lived the wild life from ages 16 to 20. Becoming a JW was the "unknown frontier" for me, not vice versa.
I'm not saying that maybe something else wouldn't have pulled me away from sex and drugs. Hell, I could have just as easily investigated Mormonism (being from Utah) or another religion. It just so happened that my Uncle was a Witness and that was the path I took.
As far as being or becoming a JW and also being depressed is concerned, I ended up having to go on antidepressants at about the same time as I started studying. Cause or coincidence? I don't know, but I can say I WOULD NOT have gone through with the baptism had I not started antidepressant therapy.
Anyway, having been a JW for 10 years (a short time) definitely impacted my life, some of it for the worse. But I wouldn't change my past decisions because I don't know that my life wouldn't have ended up much worse if I had taken another path.
Circe
ok, the subject actually have nothing to do with what i'm writing about, just thought it would be a good attention getter - imagine using that in the door to door work.. anyways, the question on my mind tonight is - is it a good thing to forget about your jw past?
sometimes people leave to forget, i feel like i was starting to forget (and still am forgetting) as i discovered these forums.
what's wrong with me?
Introspection,
Sometimes, every once in a while, I wish I could forget about my JW past. I wish that I had never been a Witness.
But, just as quickly as that thought emerges, it goes away. I admit to myself that becoming a Witness at the age that I did probably protected me from ending up pregnant or dead from drugs or alcohol. I was into some pretty stupid shit.
Also, my mother (and some aunts and uncles) are JW's, so I COULDN'T forget about my JW past even if I wanted to. My husband's mom, dad and brothers are all JW's as well, although they live in another state.
Other than not wanting my or my husband's family to disown us (neither of us are DF'd), being an ex-JW hasn't impacted me much. That may not last. I've been pretty fortunate so far.
Do I want to forget about my JW past? No. Do I want to put in behind me and get on with my life? Yes. I want to be me, Circe, the person: a spiritual, philosophical and wannabe intellectual woman. Not Circe, the ex-JW.
Circe
"Of all God's creatures there is only one that cannot be made the slave of the lash. That one is the cat. If man could be crossed with the cat it would improve man, but it would deteriorate the cat." Mark Twain
should we take the bible literally or figuratively?
you decide.
here's a little quiz that might help you make up your mind.. 1. what punishment does god mandate for anyone with a different religion?
Should we take the Bible literally or figuratively? You decide. Here's a little quiz that might help you make up your mind.
1. What punishment does God mandate for anyone with a different religion?
A. None. God accepts all his children, even those who believe in dirrerent deities.
B. Death of the nonbeliever (man and woman, great and small) and everyone in the community.
C. Purgatory.
D. None of the above.
2. How did Jesus punish those with different religions?
A. He struck them dumb.
B. He smote them and had worms eat them.
C. He had the apostles kill them for Him.
D. All of the above.
3. Pharaoh, alone, made the decision to imprison the Israelites. How did God punish this lone individual?
A. God killed every firstborn child of Egypt, including the firstborn of people imprisoned by Pharaoh as well as the firstborn of cattle.
B. God struck everyone in the fields, man and cattle, with hail.
C. God struck every single Egyptian with boils.
D. All of the above.
4. How does God punish complainers?
A. In no way. While they should not complain, since it is only by the grace of God that we are here, our just and loving God does not punish people for this act.
B. Their prayers will go unanswered for seven days and seven nights.
C. The condition of which they complain will be magnified tenfold.
D. God will burn the complainer, and everyone residing anywhere near him, with fire.
5. How does God punish those who have no knowledge of him?
A. This is ridiculous. If they haven't heard of Him, God certainly wouldn’t punish them.
B. He does not punish them until they know of Him. If they continue to disbelieve after being informed, He strikes them with plagues.
C. Their crops do not produce and their animals do not reproduce.
D. He sends lions to maul the ignorant to death.
6. How should we punish whore-committing nonbelievers in a manner that will reduce God’s otherwise unrelenting wrath?
A. Don’t judge them or toss stones. Leave the judgment to God.
B. Stone them to death and bury their bodies in a single grave.
C. Evict them from the community, and if they are family members, dissociate from them forever.
D. Kill them, and hang their heads against the sun for God to view.
7. What is God’s punishment for adultery?
A. None. While adultery is a sin, God forgives sins rather than punishes them.
B. The adulterer is to be killed.
C. The adulterer’s partner is to be killed.
D. B and C.
8. How did God punish a man who kept the Ark of the Covenant from falling off its cart and being damaged?
A. In no way. What that man did was a blessing in that he protected a sacred object.
B. Because the ark is holy, what the man did was wrong, but God did not punish him for it.
C. God smote him dead.
D. The ark burned his fingers, thereby signaling to all not to touch the ark, even to protect it.
9. What is the punishment for having sex with an animal?
A. None. God forgives all sins.
B. Death (of both the man and the animal).
C. Reasonable compensation to the beast’s owner to restore cleanliness.
D. Mandatory counseling.
10. What is the punishment for someone who anoints a stranger with holy oil?
A. Absolutely none. God encourages us to bring everyone into the fold and would therefore be pleased with our anointing of those we do not know.
B. They are to be denied access to holy oil and may not participate in any future anointings.
C. They must admit their sin to the entire congregation.
D. They are to be banished from the community.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0601/biblepunishment.html
what are the lives of ex-jws really like?
the wts tells jws one thing, but is what they say reality, or fantasy?.
a common technique used by the wts to express their viewpoint while avoiding the truth of the matter is to focus on the specific and imply that it is the general.. let me explain: do you know of any ex-jws who were disfellowshipped for immorality?
Hey Seeker,
It's been too long!
Some years ago, when I first started attending JW meetings, it was mentioned (probably the Service Meeting) that apostates were going to be picketing the District Convention that our congregation was assigned to attend.
I pictured wild eyed, snarled haired, snagly toothed women and men screaming obsenities at convention attendees while chasing the innocent convention go-ers around the parking lot, brandishing their picket signs like clubs. I could almost see the demons floating in the background urging the apostates to do bodily harm to the Witnesses.
I was afraid to attend the Convention!
I'd like the lurkers to know that JW apostates (with the exception of Farkel) aren't like that at all. :D Kidding!
Circe