Yes, I dont think my mom believes that either. My grandfather died about two years ago, she would alway try preaching to him but he never became a witness. He was a good person thought. She always talks about seeing him again in paradise. I don't have the heart to tell her, "well according to WT teachings...he won't be there"
WasOnceBlind
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Possible crack in the door that I can expose
by WasOnceBlind inso on monday when i went to pick up my son from my mom i noticed a framed print out of a poem on my moms living room.
it was in spanish but i read it and i was kind of surprised at what it said.
i don't remember it verbatim but i would go as far as to say it had some apostate factors in there.
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"Friends" are gone
by BeautifulMind ini have (well had) an extremely small circle of jw friends.
lots of acquaintances and associates but 2 or 3 i would consider my true friends.
that list is now 0. yup, once i told them i no longer believe in the org and haven't for a long time, and their attempts to encourage me thru jw lingo and terminologies to "rely on jehovah" and not to "stray away" failed that was pretty much it.
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WasOnceBlind
I have gone thru a similar experience, I have one friend who is a JW who still hangs out with me, we have been best friends since little. He isn't what I would consider even remotely "spiritual" but for some reason he just wont wake up. I think it's mostly the social club aspect of it, anyways, he is single right now and will only date JW. I have no doubt that when he marries a JW not only will I not be invited to his wedding, but he will probably stop hanging out. Sad how this cult works. -
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Possible crack in the door that I can expose
by WasOnceBlind inso on monday when i went to pick up my son from my mom i noticed a framed print out of a poem on my moms living room.
it was in spanish but i read it and i was kind of surprised at what it said.
i don't remember it verbatim but i would go as far as to say it had some apostate factors in there.
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WasOnceBlind
So on Monday when I went to pick up my son from my mom I noticed a framed print out of a poem on my moms living room. It was in spanish but I read it and I was kind of surprised at what it said. I don't remember it verbatim but I would go as far as to say it had some apostate factors in there. The poem was about a man who has been resurrected after armageddon, it tells the story about him looking for relatives or others he knew and expected to see. However, he keeps finding people he never expected to see there. The point of the poem was that only God truly knows who will be resurrected.
What caught my attention was a line in the poem where this man sees this woman he didn't expect to see there because every time he went knocking at her door to preach she would reject the witnesses.....WHAT?! I could have sworn one of their doctrines stated that they are the only way to salvation, and that those who reject them are doomed to die in armageddon. Couldn't this line be taken as apostasy? It is in direct contradiction of that teaching.
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evolution
by piledriver incan enyone explane why someone who's dissfelowshipt said they now belve in evolution has anyone heard this explane please
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WasOnceBlind
@ piledriver - I now believe in evolution. I don't believe in the fact that something started from nothing, or that we evolved from apes but I do believe organism evolve and adapt.
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evolution
by piledriver incan enyone explane why someone who's dissfelowshipt said they now belve in evolution has anyone heard this explane please
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New Watchtower Propaganda and hate speech destroying families (Feb 2016 WT)
by Daniel1555 inthe following is a paragraph from the new february study watchtower article "learn from jehovah's loyal servants.".
7 a conflict of loyalties may arise when a close relative is disfellowshipped.
for example, a sister named anne [1] received a telephone call from her disfellowshipped mother.
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WasOnceBlind
I've never agreed with this policy and I never followed it. I have had two close childhood friends DF'ed as well as my sister. Always kept talking to them, even at the hall, I would sit with them at conventions, and hang out with them. The elders never told me anything, I think because they knew I wouldn't listen anyways. I wasn't allowed to have privileges because of my immigration status at the time so they couldn't really take anything away from me. Last time my mother asked when I was returning to the org, I told her when they stop practicing shunning. I know that will never happen or droves of people would leave. Half the people in my congregation were there for the social club aspect of it. -
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I'm Catholic and madly in love with a Jehovah Witness...
by Luge62 inwe are madly in love with each other and she is in the process of being divorced.
let me make one thing clear i'm not the reason for the divorce.
she attempted to reconcile with him but to no avail.
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WasOnceBlind
OR.......she might end up like me!
I married a catholic girl while being a JW, I was marked, everyone except my childhood best friend starting treating me different and pretty much shunning me. It was one of the factors in realizing it was a BS cult, I stopped attending and never missed those hypocrites.
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WiFi problems? Want a faster network? Try Powerline Adapters!
by Simon inwifi is great.
it's so easy and convenient.
but it can be slow.. years ago when it first came out you maybe had a pc and a couple of other devices at most.
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WasOnceBlind
Yeah I use it since I have my wifi router in the bedroom and my media pc in the living room seperated by a cement wall. It works really good, the only thing I wouldnt use it for is for something that requires a fast ping response time like online gaming. -
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Beast of no nation
by WasOnceBlind ini always had a problem with the belief that god is allowing all the suffering in this world to go on just to vindicate his name and prove the devil wrong.
i watched this movie on netflix and i can really see why the atheist movement is growing.
it really does a good job of portraying the suffering in some parts of the world.
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WasOnceBlind
The math is not bad. You have zillions of chemical reactions around the universe under very wide range of conditions going on for billions of years. It's like playing the lottery. If you do it one time, the odds of winning are very, very tiny. But if you play lotto for billions of years, you are bound to get the prize many times. Abiogenesis is the same thing. I am quite confident that scientists will be playing God some time in the future, and create life out of organic substances.
Yeah but then you have to account the probabilities of that happening under the perfect environmental conditions, then one you have that you have to factor the probability of that single cell organism becoming a multi cell organism under the perfect conditions and you need to have that happen billions of times.
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Beast of no nation
by WasOnceBlind ini always had a problem with the belief that god is allowing all the suffering in this world to go on just to vindicate his name and prove the devil wrong.
i watched this movie on netflix and i can really see why the atheist movement is growing.
it really does a good job of portraying the suffering in some parts of the world.
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WasOnceBlind
So how can you better explain what you are holding onto, you said God or Creator. What about creators? How would you describe this person, is it a person or a thing? What did it actually do? Where does the creation part begin and end? What are you holding onto exactly?
I am actually open to the idea of creators, I am not strict in my belief of even a deity. I mean is it so far fetched to believe that maybe humans are not exclusive to earth? Even now we are thinking or hoping of someday colonizing Mars, is it so far fetched to think that this has already been done when it comes to earth? Anyways the point of this post was more about the fact that believing in a god that cares about humanity almost seems comical.