Frenchy...
I was asking for advice,not condemnation....however you look at it you did pass judgement upon me.I have to say this...did you think that I was unaware of what my own religion had to say about chastity/abstinence? I know that making love outside of marriage is not encouraged.I also know that my fiance and I are in love and that once we settle our religious differences we will be married.We will never be with anyone else..In our hearts we are already man and wife..I,personally, feel that it is far better to make love to the one person you will spend your life with {even out of wedlock} then it is to have random,meaningless sex.It would be nice if we could've been able to say that we waited till we were married legally,but we didn't.We know we should have waited.The past is the past,we can't change it.All we can do is prevent it from happening again until we are legally man and wife...What I was asking for wasn't criticism..I was asking if anyone knew how I should handle the situation.His parents think I am "evil",that I seduced their innocent son.They can't seem to relaize that their son is a man with his own mind,living his own life.We will wed.They will be related to me and I will have to deal with them as they will have to deal with me...
Posts by Cj
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PREMARITAL SEX
by Cj inhello..i am catholic and my fiance was raised as a jw...we are very much in love..we planned on waiting till we were married before we made love but..we didn't.we will be married once we get past our differences.we will never be with anyone else ever again...his parents found out hat we had made love out of wedlock and now they despise me even more than they did before...anyone know how i should handle this situation?how do i convince them that idid not "corrupt" their son?
{who by the way is in his early thirties!!
}.hod do i get them to believe that it was really love and not lust?
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NON JW ENGAGED TO A JW
by Cj inhello all!!
i am 22 years old and very much in love with my fiance.we have overcome many obstacles and have many more to overcome but they have all been worth it..my fiance was raised as a jw and i was raised as a catholic.i am non-practising and am considering converting to his beliefs.i have been doing alot of research and,truthfully,i am not in agreement with most of what i have learned.i know that we have to reach some sort of religious agreement before getting married and bringing children into the picture.i am feeling overwhelmed.i love him with all my heart and soul.i am christian and pary to god as opposed to jehovah..to me they are one and the same...his parents don't approve of me due to my upbringing..his father is a "minister".my father doesn't approve of my fiance because we are of different races....does anyone have any encouraging words?suggestions?.
christina {cj.
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I suppose there is something I should mention about my relationahip with my fiance..it is long distance right now...until we work through everything that has to be dealt with we will remain separated by many miles...I am in Ontario,Canada and he is in Atlanta,Georgia....I know that our relationship has an abundance of difficulties/obstacles..but we really do love one another...They do say that love conquers all..I wrote my fiance a long letter today telling him how I am feeling and what I am sorting through..{I express myself best on paper}.I told him that I love him with all my heart and that there is nothing I wouldn't do for him...then I told him that I have read of his beliefs and am not ready to accept them all.He'll answer the letter with a letter within the next two weeks,I'm kind of worried that I might have crossed a fine line by asking him to change his mind about going back to being an active JW..{he hasn't said that directly but in a roundabout way he has implied that he is seriously considering it}.I love him more than words can say....truly...We have talked of living in upper New York state because it's close to my family and he has a few job offers up that way...Personally all I want is for him to not be an active JW..He can pray to Jehovah while I pray to God...that can be done out of a congregational setting...I can live with his parents hating me,I can live with my father shunning us...as long as we have each other and our love,we can make it and be happy...
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NON JW ENGAGED TO A JW
by Cj inhello all!!
i am 22 years old and very much in love with my fiance.we have overcome many obstacles and have many more to overcome but they have all been worth it..my fiance was raised as a jw and i was raised as a catholic.i am non-practising and am considering converting to his beliefs.i have been doing alot of research and,truthfully,i am not in agreement with most of what i have learned.i know that we have to reach some sort of religious agreement before getting married and bringing children into the picture.i am feeling overwhelmed.i love him with all my heart and soul.i am christian and pary to god as opposed to jehovah..to me they are one and the same...his parents don't approve of me due to my upbringing..his father is a "minister".my father doesn't approve of my fiance because we are of different races....does anyone have any encouraging words?suggestions?.
christina {cj.
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Thanks,Wendy.I do understand/relate to what you are saying.I have to say though...I have no doubts of my love for him or of his love for me...All I question is how much interference our parents will cause.There has to be a way for him to marry me and have his parents "accept" me.A way for his beliefs and my beliefs to co-exist.He can go to Kingdom Hall if he wishes but I will not allow mychildren to go there,until they are old enough to form their own conclusions{12+}.We had talked about not raising our children under a specific faith..Just that they would be Christian.When they were old enough we'd give them the information and let them choose what was right for them.....I know its farfetched to hope that his parents will accept me as a Christian rather than a JW..I can't understand how a religion that is supposed to be Christian can be so hateful/discriminating...Aren't we all "brothers and sisters" under one God? We were all made by the same Creator whether we call Him God,Jehovah,the Lord.....I was raised to treat everyone equally,not to pass judgement because only God has the right to judge us.. v
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PREMARITAL SEX
by Cj inhello..i am catholic and my fiance was raised as a jw...we are very much in love..we planned on waiting till we were married before we made love but..we didn't.we will be married once we get past our differences.we will never be with anyone else ever again...his parents found out hat we had made love out of wedlock and now they despise me even more than they did before...anyone know how i should handle this situation?how do i convince them that idid not "corrupt" their son?
{who by the way is in his early thirties!!
}.hod do i get them to believe that it was really love and not lust?
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Cj
Hello..I am Catholic and my fiance was raised as a JW...We are very much in love..We planned on waiting till we were married before we made love but..we didn't.We will be married once we get past our differences.We will never be with anyone else ever again...His parents found out hat we had made love out of wedlock and now they despise me even more than they did before...Anyone know how I should handle this situation?How do I convince them that Idid not "corrupt" their son?{who by the way is in his early thirties!!}.Hod do I get them to believe that it was really love and not lust? =:O
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NON JW ENGAGED TO A JW
by Cj inhello all!!
i am 22 years old and very much in love with my fiance.we have overcome many obstacles and have many more to overcome but they have all been worth it..my fiance was raised as a jw and i was raised as a catholic.i am non-practising and am considering converting to his beliefs.i have been doing alot of research and,truthfully,i am not in agreement with most of what i have learned.i know that we have to reach some sort of religious agreement before getting married and bringing children into the picture.i am feeling overwhelmed.i love him with all my heart and soul.i am christian and pary to god as opposed to jehovah..to me they are one and the same...his parents don't approve of me due to my upbringing..his father is a "minister".my father doesn't approve of my fiance because we are of different races....does anyone have any encouraging words?suggestions?.
christina {cj.
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My fiance and I had discussed religion a long time ago...We had agreed that we could be Christians without having a specific religion.I don't agree with some aspects of the Catholic faith and he doesn't agree with some of the JW beliefs.From the beginning he knew I was Catholic but we never discussed his religion.He only told me about the way he was raised after we became seriously involved..he knew I would be intimidated by his beliefs.He knew that our religions would clash..It wasn't supposed to be an issue.He had chosen to do as I do,have a personal relationship with God without "belonging" to anything.His mother is terminally ill and I feel that his rekindled relationship with the way he was raised is because of this.I know it would mean the world to her if he were a devout JW.I partly believe that he is asking me to learn the JW ways for her sake.He hasn't said that he wants to go to Kingdom Hall or that he wants me and our future children to be JW's,so I take that as a good thing..{a very good thing!}>
As for my friend wanting to kiss me...I was crying and upset and was cuddled up into him,hugging.I was talking to him about how much I love my fiance and how scared I am that I will lose him to JW.I can't compete with Jehovah!! I saw that my friend was about to kiss me and for a second I almost let him..because I was distraught.Within that split second I turned my face to the side and kissed his cheek and told him that I love my fiance.He was trying to hide it but I knew that he was upset.
My heart belongs to my fiance 100%.I could never love anybody else..EVER.If I lose him,I'll lose a huge part of me..If there is such thing as soul mates,he's mine!! I love him so much that it hurts...literally...We have so many obstacles to overcome.Once we get past the religion issue and the fact that his parents hate me {my beliefs}...we'll be halfway there.My father doesn't know about my relationship with my fiance.I live at home with my father and if he finds out,I may very well get "evicted".I am very much white and my fiance is very much black....my father is very much racist...that is to say that he has a horrible thing to say about everyone that isn't white!! I know this all seems like so much to get past.But we are in love..I don't remember what life was like before I fell in love,I don't even want to have to face a life without him in it.
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NON JW ENGAGED TO A JW
by Cj inhello all!!
i am 22 years old and very much in love with my fiance.we have overcome many obstacles and have many more to overcome but they have all been worth it..my fiance was raised as a jw and i was raised as a catholic.i am non-practising and am considering converting to his beliefs.i have been doing alot of research and,truthfully,i am not in agreement with most of what i have learned.i know that we have to reach some sort of religious agreement before getting married and bringing children into the picture.i am feeling overwhelmed.i love him with all my heart and soul.i am christian and pary to god as opposed to jehovah..to me they are one and the same...his parents don't approve of me due to my upbringing..his father is a "minister".my father doesn't approve of my fiance because we are of different races....does anyone have any encouraging words?suggestions?.
christina {cj.
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I would like to thank all of you for your opinions/advice/suggestions..There is something else that I should mention..I do love my fiance and would marry him in a heartbeat...if not for all of the religious issues we have to work through.I am trying my best to keep an open mind but I REALLY don't agree with what he believes in.He is not an active JW but he has the beliefs he was raised by....A friend of mine knows all about my dliemna and has helped me talk through all of this many times.My friend is Catholic as well....I care for my friend and know that if I hadn't met my fiance,I would probably be with my friend romantically...Last night my friend was here,we watched a movie.I broke down crying over my "religious situation",he hugged me to calm me down...He almost kissed me,that is to say we almost kissed..What does this mean? I lay awake all night thinking about everything..I do love my fiance,with all my heart and soul.I am trying soooo hard to stay positive,to believe that love conquers all and that the religion issue will work itself out...Still I keep dreading the thought that my kids will know the Mommy is a big bad Catholic!! His parents will never accept me unless I conform to their beliefs..*Sigh*.So much to think about that my head is spinning!!
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favorite bands anyone?
by peaceloveharmony inhey-i'm just starting this somewhat cheesy thread on favorite bands.
here is my list:.
phish.
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Cj
Personally I listen to : DMX,Dr Dre,Sisqo,Ginuwine,Next,Destinys Child,Usher,NAS,Nelly,Profyle,Jagged Edge,old Madonna,NIN,Type O Negative,Shaggy,The Beatles/John Lennon..
I was also a huge marilyn manson fan but once I met my {JW} fiance he convinced me to put away all my "morbid/sacreligious" cds!! -
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NON JW ENGAGED TO A JW
by Cj inhello all!!
i am 22 years old and very much in love with my fiance.we have overcome many obstacles and have many more to overcome but they have all been worth it..my fiance was raised as a jw and i was raised as a catholic.i am non-practising and am considering converting to his beliefs.i have been doing alot of research and,truthfully,i am not in agreement with most of what i have learned.i know that we have to reach some sort of religious agreement before getting married and bringing children into the picture.i am feeling overwhelmed.i love him with all my heart and soul.i am christian and pary to god as opposed to jehovah..to me they are one and the same...his parents don't approve of me due to my upbringing..his father is a "minister".my father doesn't approve of my fiance because we are of different races....does anyone have any encouraging words?suggestions?.
christina {cj.
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Cj
Hello All!! I am 22 years old and very much in love with my fiance.We have overcome many obstacles and have many more to overcome but they have all been worth it..My fiance was raised as a JW and I was raised as a Catholic.I am non-practising and am considering converting to his beliefs.I have been doing alot of research and,truthfully,I am not in agreement with most of what I have learned.I know that we have to reach some sort of religious agreement before getting married and bringing children into the picture.I am feeling overwhelmed.I love him with all my heart and soul.I am Christian and pary to God as opposed to Jehovah..to me they are one and the same...His parents don't approve of me due to my upbringing..his father is a "minister".My father doesn't approve of my fiance because we are of different races....Does anyone have any encouraging words?Suggestions?
Christina {CJ.}