Finkelstein aka the fink, that is your assumption. the bible was entrusted by the lord and all the stories are genuine. It is not a production of ignorance. They just did not know the stuff we know now. God would have told them all that if he wanted to but he wanted humans to learn for themselves
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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pressman
I would like to discuss the bible with you cofy as I don't know how someone cannot see the it is inspired. I enjoy talking about the bible nonetheless -
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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but why is it stupid and won't work? the practical's of the organization should be able to understand given if they are so doctrine engaged. there has to be some way they can think beyond the religion without going against themselves. To figure out a better way than siding with them like you did is very investing. You should not side with them because when you do, you are just letting them control you and eventually you will be a baptized brother wondering why you did in the first place. Blood is not the issue here, its seeing what the word of God is wrong about. -
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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cofty I'm looking for your input on my theory. don't want to beg but what do you think of it? Oh. I bet its stupid. Your resolution is more practical anyway. at least everything but what you said about the bible. -
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The most important Bible scripture in history for JW's!
by Crazyguy inluke 12:41new international version (niv)41 peter asked, lord, are you telling this parable to us, or to everyone?.
thats right this little scripture is the most important and telling scripture of all why?
becasue this is the parable yes parable about the fathful and discreet slave and peter himself said it..below is the full passage.. .
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yes, but what about those parables that most people believe in like the one where Jesus says to cut off your eyes and hands. the governing want you to believe those are parables but not the faithful and wise slave? We should all keep this bookmarked. The smallest sentence tells everything. -
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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pressman
cofty that's your opinion. it is the word of god and its up to people to let it guide them. But that does not matter. I want to know what you personally feel about getting jws to see that what the bible said about blood is false. Would it work? if so how? -
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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Oh man I forgot. I was just basing with what I knew on that subject. Maybe an alternative approach to this is to get them to see that what the bible says about this is not true. I mean it isn't true after all. The bible is the word of god and it is spirit directed but at the end of the day god choose men to write it. So it's largely based on assumptions rather than merit. You can surely tell this to the non absent and interested about doctrine jws. right? -
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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pressman
nope. they just have to be ready to be intelligent. and Again blood does not represent life, man. The bible was not written by god but by men. I'm sure men would like to think that. I'm only judging the gone minds. You cannot help to reason with some on this topic and have a decent intelligent discussion. For some, you just cannot find any common ground. That's why I say it was stupid. -
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stuckinarut2, it's only an hour... I'm sure you can connect here while there. hopyfully -
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The Watchtower are Right About Blood...
by cofty in... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
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pressman
ok I have read it and I do not agree. You are basically saying that you agree with them about blood. Blood does not represent life by itself. It just doesn't. Also it's stupid to think you can reason with gone minds about something where they don't think at all so the bit about finding common ground is just dumb. The only thing they want is for you to become one of them. Heck it doesn't event matter if you agree or disagree as long as you agree to be baptized.