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Is there Religion after the Watchtower?

by clash_city_rockers in

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i should of posted this topic here because i am very interested to learn where those end up after the watchtower.. for those wha have left jehovahs witnesses is there religion after you leave the watch tower?

this is just a survey i would like to hear people share pesonal experiences on the matter.. 1. do you still believe in a god.

2. have you joined another religion.

clash_city_rockers

Hippikon wrote: "I think the problem with religion is speculation. And religion by its nature is pure speculation. In my opinion speculation is a dangerous tool and should be used carefully and based on known facts."

Responce: That is a very interesting point but if you where going to be consistant. If "speculation" is based on "known facts" as you put it then would it no longer be "speculation"? Just a reductio in logic. Also, epistomolocialy (how we know what we know), if we verified "known facts" such as documentation, ect... then it is inconsistant with speculation. (BTW it was this type of thinking that got me out of the WT.)

"speculation" is not = to "known facts"

Just being consistant (;)]

cheers with beers,
jr

PS, Evolution is speculation. In fact it's about as bad as a con job as the Watchtower. Don't tell me you got hoodwinked, swindled, bamboozled.

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Bitter A's Fan

by clash_city_rockers in

i'm still bitter about that sell out jason giambi going to the yanks.. i might be tempted to take the batteries out of my walkman next a's home game against n.y. and chuck them at him...just kidding but still bitter...... did you know that jose canseco used to be married to a witness girl?.

go raiders,.

jr

clash_city_rockers

Look Goph,

The Twins too have a very good history...Harmon Kilabrew 65'AL Champs 69',70, AL West Champs Rod Carew, Bert Blyleven and KERBY P.... 87' and 91 World Champs... 92' is when Eck in the ALCS got lit up again Toronto Blue Jays beat Atlanta....

Major League Baseball is a bunch of greety slobs, [>:(]
jr

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Is there Religion after the Watchtower?

by clash_city_rockers in

jw
friends

i should of posted this topic here because i am very interested to learn where those end up after the watchtower.. for those wha have left jehovahs witnesses is there religion after you leave the watch tower?

this is just a survey i would like to hear people share pesonal experiences on the matter.. 1. do you still believe in a god.

2. have you joined another religion.

clash_city_rockers

I should of posted this topic here because I am very interested to learn where those end up after the Watchtower.

For those wha have left Jehovahs witnesses is there religion after you leave the Watch Tower? This is just a survey I would like to hear people share pesonal experiences on the matter.
1. Do you still believe in a God
2. Have you joined another religion
3. Do you still believe in a bible or a Holy book?
4. Are burned out on religion?
5. Do you trust others who talk about God, Jesus and religious stuff?
6. For you who still believe in a God is your worship corprate or private?
Reguarding other Teansindental Matters:
7. Do you believe in truth?
8. Is truth absolute?
9. Are ethics and morals absolute or relitive and arbratrary?

I am interested in you guys shareing your takes on the matter.

peace,
jr

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Did Crisis of Conscience damage you?

by Mulan in

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friends

it has been suggested, by a man we know, that those who read crisis of conscience, are left with a feeling of despair and are "cast adrift" after reading it.

it is his opinion that the book shouldn't have been written, because it does harm to people.

i do not agree, and would like to hear from anyone who has an opinion to share, so i can print all this out and show it to him.. comments, everyone, please????

clash_city_rockers

Look back and being 10 years removed from the WT I can say the book is very helpfull. The book is an insiders view of all the hypocracy, contratictions, gross inconsistancies and other dialetical tentions that is involved in the WT. It's eye opening to say the least.

But for some who put all their marbles...all the chips on the the WT it may have been an overwhelming blow. Look I just posted a survey on the "personal experience" folder and the early results are telling me that most who leave are burned out on the notion of religion.

1. I know that those who leave the JW's because of the Ray Franz's book and land in some born again evangelical circle (baptist, presbyterian...) they will see Rey's book CC a provedential God send.

2. I know those who leave JW's because of Ray's book they don't go to another group or church that uses the bible and they cheer Ray's book because that is the gateway for those agnostic or athiest to do what ever the hell they want. The haisty generalisation being "well if the WT isn't true or God's organisation than nothing is true" lets party.

3. I know of those who where religious and bet it all on the WT. When Ray's book came out it nearly killed them.

by the grace of God and not my doing I landed in the 1st catagory.

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Ex-JW from Minnesota

by Adonai438 in

i've been reading a lot of stories posted here and have to say i'm glad to know there are so many ex-jw's!.

so, jehovah's witnesses sounded pretty good to me-- it never occured to me that a religion could be wrong.

was i not good enough for god?

clash_city_rockers

Andi posted in response "I find this a lot different from the world. I've met many loving, kind and sweet people in this world that know how to love unconditionally - athiests, agnostics, and Christian alike."

My intention was to generalise JW behavior that JW's normatively are friendly or befiend on with kindness and genorosity only under the condition of the Watchtower. I agree that they are some really nice JW folks and others as well that have more common grace than others and have a greater sence of charity. But these people are not the norm.

it's not coca cola it's rice, ---the clash and it was a line in "Repo Man"
jr

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Ex-JW from Minnesota

by Adonai438 in

i've been reading a lot of stories posted here and have to say i'm glad to know there are so many ex-jw's!.

so, jehovah's witnesses sounded pretty good to me-- it never occured to me that a religion could be wrong.

was i not good enough for god?

clash_city_rockers

That weas a good story Adonai438. It always is the case that the JW's come around with a sence of love and compassion but sadly it is always conditional. Not a who lot different than the world, whom the JW's thank they are better than.

shalom,
jr

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Is there Religion after the Watchtower

by clash_city_rockers in

for those wha have left jehovahs witnesses is there religion after you leave the watch tower?

this is just a survey i would like to hear people share pesonal experiences on the matter.. 1. do you still believe in a god.

2. have you joined another religion.

clash_city_rockers

Adoni438 posted: "There is more to by personal story than the answers to these questions but I hope these answers help in whatever you're looking to find out. If anyone is curious on details or actual proof I can be e-mailed :)

that would be interesting but your e-mail is restricted so you may have to e-mail me I am very interested in life and religion after Watchtower stories.

cheers,
jr

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Is there Religion after the Watchtower

by clash_city_rockers in

for those wha have left jehovahs witnesses is there religion after you leave the watch tower?

this is just a survey i would like to hear people share pesonal experiences on the matter.. 1. do you still believe in a god.

2. have you joined another religion.

clash_city_rockers

For those wha have left Jehovahs witnesses is there religion after you leave the Watch Tower? This is just a survey I would like to hear people share pesonal experiences on the matter.

1. Do you still believe in a God
2. Have you joined another religion
3. Do you still believe in a bible or a Holy book?
4. Are burned out on religion?
5. Do you trust others who talk about God, Jesus and religious stuff?
6. For you who still believe in a God is your worship corprate or private?
Reguarding other Teansindental Matters:
7. Do you believe in truth?
8. Is truth absolute?
9. Are ethics and morals absolute or relitive and arbratrary?

I am interested in you guys shareing your takes on the matter.

peace,
jr

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Bitter A's Fan

by clash_city_rockers in

i'm still bitter about that sell out jason giambi going to the yanks.. i might be tempted to take the batteries out of my walkman next a's home game against n.y. and chuck them at him...just kidding but still bitter...... did you know that jose canseco used to be married to a witness girl?.

go raiders,.

jr

clash_city_rockers

I'm still bitter about that sell out Jason Giambi going to the Yanks.
I might be tempted to take the batteries out of my walkman next A's home game against N.Y. and chuck them at him...Just kidding but still bitter.....

Did you know that Jose Canseco used to be married to a witness girl?

go Raiders,
jr

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What made you a JW?

by radar in

why did you become a dub?.

a hope for something better?.

an acceptance that your parents religion was the truth?.

clash_city_rockers

Well I was raised a Romanist. I always had religious fellings or something. But in the end when I was 19 or 20 it was this girl..... Man, was I foolish. Mistakes of youth.....

cheers with lots of beers,
jr

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