Posts by tim3l0rd

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Reliable source - new round of US Bethel layoffs coming soon

by sir82 in

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friends

was talking to an ex-bethelite who is still very well-connected to those in the ivory tower.. he says that there will soon be a(nother) large number of us bethelites who will be "reassigned to the field" as pioneers and special pioneers.. he did not give his source, but he is pretty reliable.

incidentally, he was "reassigned to the field" in the last big purge about 7 years ago.. i imagine those so reassigned would be pretty teed off.

let go just before the golden lakeshore palace was completed..

tim3l0rd

He has a piddling little minimum-wage 10 or 15 hour part time job somewhere, and daddy pays for pioneering ($25,000 Jeep, free gas & health insurance, free rent to live at home, free family vacations to Europe, etc.)

How is it that the R&F buy into the idea that everyone should pioneer. In almost every example I've seen, the pioneering/full-time service skips a generation. The pioneers/full-time servants are reliant on other people to continue living. Not everyone can pioneer or enter the full-time service and the org keep on running.

I'm not sure if the higher ups know this and press it because they know that those who can't will feel guilty and support them monetarily to assuage the guilt or truly buy into the idea that "Jehovah will provide" if the majority of JWs finally quit their job and pioneer. I've heard it said by a CO and at a convention that having everyone pioneer and reduced contributions would be a good problem to have and that Jehovah would provide.

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Are JWs trying to make dysfunctional kids and destroy their ability to live normal lives?

by C0ntr013r in

are jws trying to make dysfunctional kids that wont "fit" in normal society so they will "return to jehovah"?

because there have been many stories about young people who have been out in the world only to find how bad it was and how correct the org was.. a good jw kid with "good" jw parents will have many big issues, some examples:.

fear of demons (fear, misfit).

tim3l0rd

I don't think the borg designs anything very well and surely does not have the forethought to create this kind of situation by design. They don't employ psychologists or child psychologists. They hold to the Bible as the best guidance and dismiss any recommendations by man. The recent videos directed at youths and teens is a knee-jerk reaction to them bleeding young people each year.

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BREAKING NEWS!!!

by DATA-DOG in

breaking news from co!!

according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.

what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?

tim3l0rd

SimonSays,

How do you reconcile the dishonest and deceitful practice of misquotes and taking quotes out of context that the society resorts to?

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List of Prominent JW Urban Legends...

by Tuesday in

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friends

hey folks,.

i'm wondering if you all could help me with my next video that i want to put up in the next couple of days (though i'm hoping for tonight), i want to come up with a list of the most prominent urban legends surrounding jws and then refute them whatever they may be.. i'm thinking there's the urban legend about the question on jeopardy that said the nwt was the most accurate would be a good one.

that one stems from an online powerpoint presentation named theological jeopardy and a book which was written comparing six different translations of the bible.

tim3l0rd

She turns and finds her husband's body slashed in slices. The police, after analyzing the body, said the cuts were so precise and perfect that couldn't have been done by a human hand

Gruesome! JWs love their gruesome tales as long as it's seen visually in a movie... lol

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Reliable source - new round of US Bethel layoffs coming soon

by sir82 in

jw
friends

was talking to an ex-bethelite who is still very well-connected to those in the ivory tower.. he says that there will soon be a(nother) large number of us bethelites who will be "reassigned to the field" as pioneers and special pioneers.. he did not give his source, but he is pretty reliable.

incidentally, he was "reassigned to the field" in the last big purge about 7 years ago.. i imagine those so reassigned would be pretty teed off.

let go just before the golden lakeshore palace was completed..

tim3l0rd

They also need some to head up the LDC groups that they are creating. My understanding is that they will have full-time servants working in each LDC.

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Donation to WWW raised last night.

by freemindfade in

so there was announcements last night that the set amount of donation was going to be raised.

i don't believe out hall has a mortgage or "forgiven" mortgage.

but the hall already donates a set amount above what is put in the www box, from the local fund.

tim3l0rd

Our congregation gives very little (poor ASL congregation). The local needs talk was about giving. He spent 90% of the talk discussing about giving of ourselves to help others in the hall, but finally got around to giving more to the congregation as our contributions have been shy of our expenses for almost a year now.

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Why Is This New Batch of Governing Body Members So Stupid?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

well there are lots of reason for sure, denial, delusion, wishful thinking, ego maniac, infantile understanding of ancient writings, satanophobia, xenophobia, out of touch with reality, limited choices scrapping the bottom of the barrel,and many more.. listen to this ted talk and see if you can pick out something that helps explain why these guys are such ass holes:.

organizations are often run according to the superchicken model, where the value is placed on star employees who outperform others.

and yet, this isnt what drives the most high-achieving teams.

tim3l0rd

I think the reason why GB 2.0 seems so stupid compared to the prior GB is that the prior members of the GB were brought up in an organization that gave some leeway to those in the organization to form their own opinions and discuss them. Those that joined JWs after disfellowshipping and other changes were instituted that restricted free thinking have been severely mentally handicapped. We're seeing the result of this now.

GB 2.0 is not college educated and has not been able to freely discuss doctrine nor think for themselves their entire JW life. This obviously has a profound effect on their mental capacity. I know that since waking up I have also noticed how my thinking ability was handicapped and not just in all things JW.

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BREAKING NEWS!!!

by DATA-DOG in

breaking news from co!!

according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.

what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?

tim3l0rd

SimonSays-
Instead of putting trust in the one being that took them out of bondage, they thanked him by worshipping other Gods.

Do you want to know what killed my trust in the organization? The repeated misquotes and quotes taken out of context in order to support their doctrine. I trusted every article that they wrote. I trusted every quote as showing that others too supported our position and didn't bother to look up the quotes. Why should I? This is Jehovah's organization. They wouldn't lie or be deceptive.

It was only once I was helping someone else study to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses and he looked up the quotes and brought them to my attention that I started looking up other quotes in the same book and in other publications. It's clear once you research the society's own publications using just their publications and the original sources they quote from that, instead of being freed from bondage, we have been held captive by a corrupt organization. Say what you will about Ray Franz and others, but after I realized I had been deceived I couldn't fathom why and how these men that were supposed to be shepherds could do such a thing. Ray's book shined a light on the inner-workings of the organization that the R&F don't get to see. I now feel sorry for those that are still being held captive, including the GB who believe that they are God's sole channel.

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BREAKING NEWS!!!

by DATA-DOG in

breaking news from co!!

according to a reliable source, the co in my area says that jws may have been hearing the phrase, "final push" being used.

what sage advice did this shepherd, duke, and "star" of revelation have to say?

tim3l0rd

I've heard this "final push" message as well as rumors from other JWs. I don't remember whether I was awake or not when I heard it, but I do remember rolling my eyes.

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Comparing JWs to Jews

by CalebInFloroda in

some have asked how my views and convictions have changed over the past 15 years or so after leaving the watchtower behind to return to my familys roots and embrace judaism.

the best way to explain things is to allow both the religion of the watchtower and my life as a jew today to stand side-by-side for comparison.

while i cant guarantee this will help prove to others that the jehovahs witnesses are truly a crazy religious group, i am sure it will prove to most that jews probably are, and are quite aware of it.

tim3l0rd

Will not be voting for Jeb Bush in the next U.S. presidential election because last time we Jews took directions from a bush we ended up wandering in the wilderness for 40 years.

I would have literally LOL'd at this if my wife wasn't sitting on the couch next to me.