Posts by tim3l0rd

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All these changes in the last five years are mindblowing

by truthseeker in

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i can't begin to count all the changes that have happened in the last five years.. i just read they're getting rid of the theocratic ministry school from cedar's blog.. i remember when they released the new theo school book back in 2001. how times have changed.. it's almost scary in a way what's happening.

there's barely any time to adapt to one change before another change comes along.. there's been more changes in the last five years than the previous 100 years.. i feel like there's some grand puppet master pulling his string.. what if the governing body are not really in charge but just give the impression they're in charge.

could there be someone else behind the scenes?.

tim3l0rd

It's mostly a rebranding of the existing meeting. They are still going to have 3 presentations that will be between 3 - 5 minutes each. I'm sure they won't be entirely scripted and the presenters will have to do some research and adaptation. I think they will still be counseled on various points just like they were on the TMS.

Someone over on Reddit said that it was just announced that the BE book has been translated to ASL and will be released soon. I doubt they would translate it, announce it's release, and then shelve it in just a few months.

The most interesting part of the letter to me is the reduction, yet again, of the WT and Awake. I can't see how most JWs can accept that this is how Jehovah would "speed up the work".

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Are the Governing Body broadcasts promoted at Kingdom Hall meetings?

by nicolaou in

a question for those still attending i guess but are all these new jw.telemuppet.org broadcasts advertised to the the rank and file or is it more of a background thing?.

i'm wondering because i just can't believe my 70 year old die-hard jw mum would ever see them if she wasn't sat down in front of a screen and someone clicked 'play' for her.

i really want her to see the wizards behind the curtain.

tim3l0rd

I get weird looks when I tell anyone that I haven't watched the latest one. They look at me like I have three heads. I always get the same line, "It was so upbuilding!"

In truth, I haven't seen any since the May broadcast, but I've only admitted that to one elder.

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Is Watchtower imploding? 10 reasons why the end could be nigh

by WildeLover in

http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/is-watchtower-imploding-10-reasons-why-the-end-could-be-nigh.

i dont know how to hyperlink the link above,.

it's a link to an article by cedars on the possibility of the wt imploding?.

tim3l0rd

We had a special pioneer in my congregation growing up that had long since stopped meeting the hour requirements for special pioneers, but was allowed to keep the title of special pioneer due to her age. This allowed her to continue to receive a stipend. They also allow long time elderly Bethel workers to stay on at Bethel. In both cases, while not calling it "retirement", it is essentially the same thing and it is an ongoing expense.

I would imagine that elderly COs are given a similar stipend once they hit the max age.

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Need best info on why Jesus could never have chosen org in 1918?

by GodZoo in

hi folks... i was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player i was attacking.

in it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving jw.

possibly an elder... well.. i spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.. he knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of candice conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or russell etc.. i completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!.

tim3l0rd

@Fink,

In that same article they state:

“Appointed over his domestics”: In 1919, Jesus selected capable anointed brothers to be his faithful and discreet slave

Unfortunately your argument won't fly. They claim that they are appointed over the domestics (JWs) but not over his belongings (heavenly authority).

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Need best info on why Jesus could never have chosen org in 1918?

by GodZoo in

hi folks... i was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player i was attacking.

in it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving jw.

possibly an elder... well.. i spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.. he knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of candice conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or russell etc.. i completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!.

tim3l0rd

Current teaching is that they were selected in 1919, not 1918. See the QFR in the 11/15/14 WT. One thing to point out in that QFR is that the "42 months" is taken as a literal length of time yet the 3.5 days is figurative. Both time-frames are part of the same prophecy. Makes no sense.

As others have mentioned, you can use JWFacts to find a lot of info. For the 1918/1919 debate, you can point to 607 not being the year that Jerusalem was destroyed. That messes up their entire timeline. See this article to prove it from WT literature.

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