Need best info on why Jesus could never have chosen org in 1918?

GodZoo

Hi folks..

I was playing a tiny online ipad multiplayer war game last night and one started a dialogue with a another player I was attacking. In it he quoted a scripture.. and it turns out he he is a 25 year serving JW. Possibly an elder..

Well.. I spent 6 hours tapping away with one finger in the chat box until 8am this morning with him about all the issues on sex abuse, the money grab and most importantly the subject of Jesus turning his attention to the earth and selecting the then Bibles students as his one and only people based on what they were teaching (spiritual food) back then.

He knows nothing about any of the current and historic child sex abuse cases (never heard of Candice Conti etc) and even less about the insane early teachings or Russell etc.

I completely blew his mind in our 6 hour text chat not to mention my index finger nearly falling off!

So.. we have now moved over to email dialogue and I want to send him the single best article on the utter impossibility of Jesus having selected that group of people for anything. This guy's mind is wide open to being woken up! He is gagging for information and I could feel his mind going into complete meltdown from the things I was sharing with him.

What do you think would be the best article to show him on this topic without scaring him off and causing his mind to slam shut?

How about this one?

http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/was-watchtower-society-chosen-by-jesus.html

Any suggestions welcome. Thank you.

freemindfade

1914 is a totally bogus date... the end. Without 1914 their other dates crumble.

http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-1914.php

freemindfade

1914 is a totally bogus date... the end. Without 1914 their other dates crumble.

http://jwfacts.com/watchtower/607-1914.php

GodZoo

Oh.. and accurate info on the sale value of the Brooklyn real estate please. He seems to think it all went for only $370 million. Not the billion I have read in here which is what the org is telling them..

freemindfade

in 2001 Their revenue was just shy of 1 billion, not sure if that included any of the sales of the building but I don't believe so, that predates that. Look up article in the Brooklyn eagle, it may have had some figures.

Crazyguy

There's a you tube chanel called dJW mediafilms something like that. Any there's a video on it where he uses JW own books and the list of babylonian kings listed in those books to show that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 not 607. It's called JWmediafilms

Splash

In 1919 they were still celebrating birthdays and Christmas, had a masonic crucifix on the magazines, called the apostles "saints" and Adam "the first Pharaoh". Both Russell and Rutherford went to their graves teaching that the Bridegroom had already come in 1874 and made king in 1878, so neither were in expectation of him in 1914 and therefore could not have been "happy" if "on arriving he found them watching for his return."

They believed strongly in occult Pyramidology, said Tartarus was the Earth's atmosphere, taught Jehovah lived in the Pleiades, said Samson prefigured socialism (photodrama), and taught that the ancients were to be resurrected in 1925 and so built a mansion (Beth Sarim) for them to live in. They allowed smoking and pictured the Edenic snake with legs. They said the "behemoth" from Job 40 was the stationary steam engine, the "leviathan" from Job 41 was the locomotive and the "valiant men" in Nahum 2:3 are the locomotive conductor and the fireman, and that train travel fulfilled Dan 12:4 "Many will run to and fro".

They said that spirit mediums grew tentacles, and spirits lived among us wearing tweed and drinking whisky but were not able to bleed ("Talking with the Dead" p. 116-126).

They taught the horseman on the white horse in Revelation 6:2 is the Pope, the "7 messengers" in Revelation are Paul, John, Arius, Waldo, Wycliffe, Luther and Russell, the "stars that fell from the heavens" in Revelation 6:13 refers to a meteor shower on November 13, 1833, the "Time of the End" started in 1799, Michael the Archangel is "the Pope of Rome" and the angels are his bishops. The four rivers of Eden represented the little flock, great crowd, ancient worthies and world of mankind.

They declared that all churches would be destroyed by 1918, promised that those alive back then would never die, saluted the flag, worshipped Jesus, said the "Great Crowd" were second class Christians with a heavenly hope, and according to the WT "the end" has been coming "soon" for over 130 years now.

All these teachings were said to be light and truth from Jehovah, were "without question" and "cannot be disputed" (1925 Our Lords Return p.29). Why? wt 1922 Dec 15 p.396 - "those who have seen, held, and taught present Truth, most assuredly have believed that our late beloved leader, Brother Russell, held that position of steward. And this we most certainly hold, both as both a fact and as a necessity of faith."

Do you think it remotely plausible that Jesus examined this group and decided they were more accurate and earnest than every other Christian group?

Evidence which no other religion could come close to - to avoid confusion!!!!!

Then ask him who personally selected the current mob in Brooklyn - 100 years on!

Need best info on why Jesus could never have chosen org in 1918?

GodZoo

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