Posts by tim3l0rd

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Deaf Aotearoa flooded with complaints about Jehovah's Witness church

by OrphanCrow in

deaf aotearoa flooded with complaints about jehovah's witness churchkashka tunstalllast updated 15:22, october 6 2015deaf aotearoa has asked the jehovah's witness church to respond to claims of a deaf information database.new zealand's deaf community is fed up with unsolicited house calls, claiming the jehovah's witness church is targeting deaf households.deaf aotearoa has received multiple complaints from around the country and says church members visited certain homes because they were aware a deaf person lived there.

the organisation released a statement on monday, saying it was looking into the possibility the church holds a database listing the details of members of the deaf community.jehovah witness spokesman rod spinks said there was no such database and deaf people were not being targeted.the deaf aotearoa statement was posted on the group's facebook page, and received a flood of comments from frustrated people.one woman said a group of jehovah's witnesses had come to her house and asked "for the deaf person who lives here.

" she said they refused to explain how they had her details and didn't visit her neighbours.another said church members had turned up at her work and asked for her by name.hamilton man royce flynn said he had been visited six times over the last nine months, despite repeatedly saying he was uninterested in the house calls.he said the church members were always able to sign and also brought deaf people along, which lead him to believe he was being singled out.flynn said contacted local police, who told him it was a privacy issue and referred him on to the office of the privacy commissioner.he said he had been been in contact with local labour member of parliament sue moroney.deaf aotearoa acting chief executive jill dean said complaints about the church were a recurring issue.

tim3l0rd

While I don't think that there is an issue with JWs having a database of those who are deaf (all of our names and addresses appear on some Compagnie's database), my biggest issue with this article is the lie told by Spinks that there is no database. The other problem is that they keep harassing the same people after being told to not come back, but that's more of an internal communication issue.

How Spinks can say with a straight face that there is no db is beyond me. Every foreign language group or congregation works off of a db of names of known users of the language. I wish I llived in NZ. I'd contact this group and tell them that Spinks is lying to them.

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Mass disassociation pact...

by freemindfade in

any takers?

we can pick a date and pull the plug?

lol .

tim3l0rd

I like the idea of the memorial.

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So changes were made, but who cares because were so deep into the end, nothing the Organization does, really matters—does it?

by John Aquila in

so i called a few jwdubs that still talk to me, not to try to convince them of anything or wake them up but to try to get a feedback on how they took the big meeting change and other announcements.

generally speaking, all the ones i talked to were not even fazed by the changes.

many of them still didnt even realize the meeting format had changed and thought the layoffs were a normal thing that happens all the time.

tim3l0rd

My point to an elder was that the Israelites had the 10 plagues, the cloud of fire that led them, the parting of the red sea, and the manna they received each day to remind them who was leading them. Jesus gave signs and miracles. Where are these signs with the WT? Only 1 "prophecy" has come true and they even prophesied wrong about that one. Since 1914, they have been wrong about every other "prophecy".

The only thing he could point to was correct understandings of core doctrines (hell, trinity, ransom) and the preaching work. The core doctrines we believe are correct because that's all we've ever been taught and the preaching work is experiencing diminishing returns.

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My Mother Died Two Weeks Ago

by Perry in

jw
friends

none of my jehovah's witness relatives called to tell me or my family.

just found out this morning.

tim3l0rd

WOW!!!

Perry, that is a horrific thing for them to do and completely against even JW teachings.

I am so sorry for your loss. I can't even imagine what you're going through. Please know that my thoughts are with you even though I've never met you.

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Is Watchtower beginning to buckle

by Truthexplorer in

is wt beginning to buckle under the weight of everything that is happening?

heavy criticism from the media and the plethora of websites and youtube videos popping up; and now the obvious issues with finances clearly evident.

the pressure for change must be immense and therefore necessary!

tim3l0rd

It seems obvious to anyone who will look at all of the data that their changes are to lower costs and could be because of lack of funds. The problem is that JWs don't look at all of the data. In the US, almost none of them are aware of the Australian Royal Commission or even the Conti or Lopez cases. Other than the elders or some of the MS's, most are unaware of the money grab from the KHs and are unaware that donations are down. They swallow the spin from the org that reductions/changes are to focus on the preaching work because the end is so near.

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Is disfellowshipping a loving arrangement?

by mana11 in

i read this post, i voted and the ones saying it is a loving arrangement is over 68%, i am mind blown - what fool can think it is a loving arrangement.

lets teach them that is it not thought of as loving...your chance to let these people know if dis-fellowshipping is a loving arrangement!..

http://www.jehovahs-witness.org/is-disfellowshipping-a-loving-arrangement/.

tim3l0rd

The question should be "Is shunning of disfellowshipped/disassociated persons a loving arrangement?"

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TV.JW.ORG - October 2015: Neighborly love is more than just Field Service

by Designer Stubble in

the october 2015 jw broadcast, hosted by gerrit losch is quite positive actually.a lot of focus on "field service" needs to be balanced with other good works - supporting those in need around you - either in the congregation (witnesses) or in your classroom or neighbors (non-witnesses).

visiting and encouraging the sick and elderly is mentioned.

jesus parable of the merciful samaritan is highlighted.

tim3l0rd

Maybe that's why they stopped the KH construction. They're planning on modifying the design to add a soup kitchen!

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Has anyone thought of the spin that the "society" will put on bethel layoffs?

by Lied2NoMore in

first, how about a joke?.

what do you call someone who just turned apostate?.

im thinking sometime in the future the society will put a spin on what is happening similar to what has been done in the past.. they will say apostasy once again reared its ugly head in the organization and layoffs was the only way to "cleanse" the organization.. once disgruntled ones begin to use their voice, they will be forced to strike back with some spin to make all those who have the guts to complain look like they were the problem.. good theory huh?.

tim3l0rd

They are already putting a spin on it. Heard directly from a family member who heard the announcement that bethel is saying that they are "reassigning" the bethelites to the field because the end is near and more "workers" are needed in the the field. They don't need to spin it anymore than that. The R&F eat up any and all Alarmageddon announcements.

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Will Gilead Go Away?

by freemindfade in

just a total speculative thought i had.

with branches getting cut, special pioneers getting sacked, and bethel members going byebye, is there a need for gilead still?

(co's are probably on the block too lests be honest).. if they got rid of that i feel that would be huge.

tim3l0rd

@SecretSlaveClass

I drank the first half of the bottle neat (not all at once :-O). Then I tried it with ice. I like it even better that way.

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Top Dog Volunteer

by pontoon in

from the first bethel layoffs some time ago i began to wonder how does one volunteer layoff, fire another volunteer?

they're suppose to be the same, equal volunteers.

the volunteer that does the firing----where did his authority come from?

tim3l0rd

Seriously! What brotherly love! I'd die for you, but I have no problem telling you to get out while I stay!