Posts by tim3l0rd

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Is it true? Heard a rumor WT postphones Disfellowshipping until further notice!!??

by Olivia Wilde in

i am not sure if it's true but i heard from a good source that wt has given instructions to elders to postponed disfellowshipping members from wrong doing/gross sin until further instructions given by headquarters.

i heard some jws were just reproved either privately or publically.

has anyone else heard anything like this recently?

tim3l0rd

unless the "Law" is breathing down their necks

Or they're losing money...

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You contemptible worms aren't giving us enough! GIVE US MORE! Service meeting part December 21, 2015

by sir82 in

jw
friends

from the october 19 letter to the body of elders:.

to all bodies of eldersre: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015dear brothers:the service meeting for the week of december 21, 2015, includes a ten-minute part entitledshow appreciation for jehovahs generosity.

this is to be a talk based on the november15, 2015, watchtower, pages 14-15. sometime during this part, the video a gift in hand to jehovahshould be played for the congregation.

tim3l0rd

But I thought the layoffs were not due to a lack of donations from the J-Dubs???

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Is it true? Heard a rumor WT postphones Disfellowshipping until further notice!!??

by Olivia Wilde in

i am not sure if it's true but i heard from a good source that wt has given instructions to elders to postponed disfellowshipping members from wrong doing/gross sin until further instructions given by headquarters.

i heard some jws were just reproved either privately or publically.

has anyone else heard anything like this recently?

tim3l0rd

It could be that they are putting a halt to disfellowhipping for certain offenses like apostasy or being the victim of child abuse.

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

tim3l0rd

lsw1961-

I will agree with you that JWs have many good points. Personally, I feel that they good does not outweigh the bad. I also feel that you cannot truthfully say that you can be intellectually honest as a JW. If you don't agree with a particular teaching, are you allowed to say so during a WT study? What would happen if you did? Would you teach that false teaching to a bible student? What if you went on a study with another publisher who was teaching that point? What if a CO or elder accompanied you on a study and a point came up that you didn't agree with?

You may say that the light gets brighter, but many of the changes in "understandings" are not refinements. They are outright reversals. Why should I believe that the current understanding is anymore true than the previous one? How many times has the "understanding" of the meaning of "this generation" changed? Are you really teaching "truth"?

You ask why many of us don't just go away. Part of it has to do with how we are treated as ex-JWs. The organization doesn't leave us alone. We are cast as "mentally diseased" and our friends and family are told not to associate with us. Many of us don't even want to discuss religion with our families. We'd just like to have a normal family relationship. Unfortunately, the WT org makes that impossible as there is no way to leave the org and not lose family and/or friends. So comparing us attacking the org to an ex-husband monitoring and attacking his wife is only a proper analogy if the wife was unfairly keeping the kids from her ex-husband and lying to them and to the authorities to keep the kids away. In that case it would be proper for the ex-husband to monitor his wife and use whatever legal means necessary to get his kids back. That is how we feel and why we continue to "attack" the org. The great thing is that the org provides all we need to "attack". Some ex-JWs do exaggerate and make stuff up, but they are in the minority.

Welcome to the forum. I hope you stick around. We like to hear alternate viewpoints. Although some will respond hurtfully, understandably since they've been hurt, most will respond with very good points to consider.

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Do You Think 10% Tithing is Coming?

by xjwsrock in

firstly, there are cash flow problems in wt town.

i don't think it's necessary to list all the cutbacks and layoffs, but there have been many.. their thirst for money seems higher too in my opinion.

more entitled may be a better way of putting it.

tim3l0rd

Blondie-

That's funny, because only a couple of years ago for an assembly they required that all the brothers only white shirts.

-TL

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Do You Think 10% Tithing is Coming?

by xjwsrock in

firstly, there are cash flow problems in wt town.

i don't think it's necessary to list all the cutbacks and layoffs, but there have been many.. their thirst for money seems higher too in my opinion.

more entitled may be a better way of putting it.

tim3l0rd

I think they'll enforce a "donation" on a congregation basis. If the congregation doesn't meet it's "donation" quota, they'll eventually disband the congregation and redraw territory lines.

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Our assembly expenses were $16,900 for ONE DAY - Please share yours

by nmthinker in

~2300 in attendance.

one day cost of $16,900!.

this was at romeoville, which was built ground up in the 90's and was fully paid for by the illinois circuits!.

tim3l0rd

Orangeburg, SC (finished within the last 3 years) - approx 2,200 attendance - $22,000 cost

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Retirement Planning for ex-JW's

by Simon in

this is something i think about a lot, possibly because i'm just getting older.

it seems that not only should i finally one day decide what i want to do with my life, but i should also be planning for retirement.. hands up everyone who feels their future has been royally screwed by the wts experience?.

if you were a good jw and followed the wts advice you could well be finding yourself facing middle or even old age without much or anything put aside in retirement savings.

tim3l0rd

For those looking for ways to budget, I like YNAB - You Need A Budget. I'm not affiliated with them, but I use their software and have recommended it to friends and family. It does help you to move away from the paycheck to paycheck cycle. I like the creator of the software's philosophy on budgeting.

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One day assemblies

by Sour Grapes in

this may have been discussed before.

the costs for using the assembly hall for a one day last saturday was $12,000 with another assembly for the other half of the circuit on sunday, which will ring up another $12,000.

if the assembly was for two days the friends might roll their eyes if it were announced the costs for the two days was $24,000.

tim3l0rd

The recent one day that I went to supposedly cost $22,000.00!

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Disfellowshipping Spree In My Congregation

by jw07 in

i just was looking back at a group photo on social media from exactly one year ago.. there are 12 persons in it, and since last year 3 of those persons in that photo have been disfellowshipped, plus one more not in the photo.

so that's a total of 4 persons from my congregation of a little over 100 publishers.. unfortunately 3 are back at the meetings and taking the shunning, but one seems to be fully awake and has disappeared completely.. that's the most persons i recall being disfellowshipped in my congregation in such a short while.

usually it's like 1 every 2 or 3 years.. i wouldn't mind seeing more people leaving.. there are currently 3 persons who i wonder about.

tim3l0rd

My wife and I are changing from ASL to English, mostly to help with my fade. The first meeting we went to, they had a local needs and discussed what the CO had asked the congregation to work on. The CO had given them this same report for the last 2 visits meaning that they had this problem for at least a year. The problem was that they had a high number of 1-5 hour publishers (around 40%) and they had a low number of RVs (around 30% of publishers had 1 - 2 RVs/month and many had 0).

As soon as I heard the report, I thought, we need to join this congregation. I'll fit right in and they won't bat an eye that I'm only reporting an hour a month or even skipping months. Coming from ASL where you were talked to if you had less than 15 hrs/month and the congregation averaged 20 hrs/month, I was quite surprised. I'm hoping the apathy rubs off on my wife.