So, beat the sheep for not stepping up in the congregation, not doing more, etc., but don't beat them up for donations as it might harm our supply of money!
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Samuel Herd's statement about donations and Cialdini's social proof
by slimboyfat insamuel herd made a statement a few weeks ago about halting construction work, laying off bethel workers and reducing printing output: severe cutbacks all round.
he said, like the head of a household, the gb has to make sure the organisation is living within its means.
but he added a very careful phrase, something like: "be assured brothers these measures have not been taken as a result of any lack of financial support on your part.
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2015 10-20-BOE!
by Atlantis in2015, 10/20/boe.. .. re: making wise use of printed magazines.. .. page 2: .
this postscript should neither be read to the congregation nor be posted .
on the information board.. .
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Still sending hours, RVs, and bible studies to the branch, but not placements or video showings. I think they were probably tired of seeing all the "placements" that were recorded not adding up to reality.
It makes sense, though, as they COs now appoint elders and MS. The branch doesn't need all that info.
On a side note wifibandit's video showing numbers will be through the roof! LOL
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Do You Think Any Of The Governing Body Are Contemplating Suicide? Over This Rather Rude Financial Reality?
by Brokeback Watchtower infaithful and always so very discrete in many things but when it comes to the lord's money not so good.. i think as it begins to register in their minds as to what a terrible job they have done as ceos of a large corporation leading it into this condition that thoughts of suicide come from.
not to mention the shame at being a public spetical to the world by the rc.
all these things and more are creeping through their denial as they are forced to face reality.
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Nah, not suicide. Maybe one will wake up though! Although I can't imagine which one it would be. They all seem like they drank too much of the kool-aid. Maybe one of the helpers will wake up. Maybe one of the helpers is already awake and is waiting for his call to the inner-circle so he can really bust open the inner sanctum and what goes on.
I've heard that they make the GB members leave their phones at the door, but there are tons of ways to record today. Short of strip searches, there is no way they could eliminate the possibility of all recording devices. I bet releasing some of the meetings of the GB, especially the meetings where they determine "NuLite" would cause an exodus not seen since the early 1900s.
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Too Much Discontent in the Congregation Part 2
by Simon Templar inhere is part 2..
so you will have some understanding of the boe i will reference in future posts, the following is who they are:.
the coordinator.
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The Angels will guide a nuclear bomb away from the Governing Body!
by John Aquila inthis is one major reason why i dont try to wake up anyone anymore.
they need to take the first step, and then i will help---- if they ask.
otherwise i just listen and marvel at how some of them think.
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You contemptible worms aren't giving us enough! GIVE US MORE! Service meeting part December 21, 2015
by sir82 infrom the october 19 letter to the body of elders:.
to all bodies of eldersre: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015dear brothers:the service meeting for the week of december 21, 2015, includes a ten-minute part entitledshow appreciation for jehovahs generosity.
this is to be a talk based on the november15, 2015, watchtower, pages 14-15. sometime during this part, the video a gift in hand to jehovahshould be played for the congregation.
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I appreciate Jehovah's generosity. Where is HIS donation box again? I'd like to send the money directly to HIM... -
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Is it true? Heard a rumor WT postphones Disfellowshipping until further notice!!??
by Olivia Wilde ini am not sure if it's true but i heard from a good source that wt has given instructions to elders to postponed disfellowshipping members from wrong doing/gross sin until further instructions given by headquarters.
i heard some jws were just reproved either privately or publically.
has anyone else heard anything like this recently?
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tim3l0rd
unless the "Law" is breathing down their necks
Or they're losing money...
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You contemptible worms aren't giving us enough! GIVE US MORE! Service meeting part December 21, 2015
by sir82 infrom the october 19 letter to the body of elders:.
to all bodies of eldersre: service meeting part for week of december 21, 2015dear brothers:the service meeting for the week of december 21, 2015, includes a ten-minute part entitledshow appreciation for jehovahs generosity.
this is to be a talk based on the november15, 2015, watchtower, pages 14-15. sometime during this part, the video a gift in hand to jehovahshould be played for the congregation.
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Is it true? Heard a rumor WT postphones Disfellowshipping until further notice!!??
by Olivia Wilde ini am not sure if it's true but i heard from a good source that wt has given instructions to elders to postponed disfellowshipping members from wrong doing/gross sin until further instructions given by headquarters.
i heard some jws were just reproved either privately or publically.
has anyone else heard anything like this recently?
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JWs have more good points than bad
by lsw1961 in1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).
2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.
this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.
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I will agree with you that JWs have many good points. Personally, I feel that they good does not outweigh the bad. I also feel that you cannot truthfully say that you can be intellectually honest as a JW. If you don't agree with a particular teaching, are you allowed to say so during a WT study? What would happen if you did? Would you teach that false teaching to a bible student? What if you went on a study with another publisher who was teaching that point? What if a CO or elder accompanied you on a study and a point came up that you didn't agree with?
You may say that the light gets brighter, but many of the changes in "understandings" are not refinements. They are outright reversals. Why should I believe that the current understanding is anymore true than the previous one? How many times has the "understanding" of the meaning of "this generation" changed? Are you really teaching "truth"?
You ask why many of us don't just go away. Part of it has to do with how we are treated as ex-JWs. The organization doesn't leave us alone. We are cast as "mentally diseased" and our friends and family are told not to associate with us. Many of us don't even want to discuss religion with our families. We'd just like to have a normal family relationship. Unfortunately, the WT org makes that impossible as there is no way to leave the org and not lose family and/or friends. So comparing us attacking the org to an ex-husband monitoring and attacking his wife is only a proper analogy if the wife was unfairly keeping the kids from her ex-husband and lying to them and to the authorities to keep the kids away. In that case it would be proper for the ex-husband to monitor his wife and use whatever legal means necessary to get his kids back. That is how we feel and why we continue to "attack" the org. The great thing is that the org provides all we need to "attack". Some ex-JWs do exaggerate and make stuff up, but they are in the minority.
Welcome to the forum. I hope you stick around. We like to hear alternate viewpoints. Although some will respond hurtfully, understandably since they've been hurt, most will respond with very good points to consider.