Posts by tim3l0rd

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Disfellowshipping Image

by naazira in

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this photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.

why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.

just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.

True. I'm in the "Bible belt" so that probably has a lot to do with it. It still seems to me, though, that the recent comments by the GB is leaning towards not accepting what the sister in blue is wearing. The restriction against heels that the org have spouted is against all heels, and not just at the RC. They've recommended flats only. Obviously many JW sisters don't follow these "suggestions", but that doesn't change the fact that the subtle message here could be that her dress is inappropriate.

timelord

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I want serious answers from WT leaders, possible?

by Powermetal4ever in

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what would happen if i would write a physical letter to, for example, the branch office.

and ask questions about scandals like the ngo thing and other stuff?

or ask questions about wtbs economy, or ask for a annual report, which is something i would really like to read.

tim3l0rd

@sir82

I understand what the outcome may be, but I think that maybe how it is handled will help some of my family realize the hypocrisy of the org. For some of them, I think I need something that will make a huge impact. I could probably still play it off once the boe proceeding start, but if some of my close family hears of and listens to my experience then maybe it will pay off. Most don't wake up until they experience it first hand and that's only because we're not allowed to read the experiences of those that left. If I can navigate the tricky waters and remain a JW, then maybe I can share my experience (albeit discreetly) with those close to me and plant the same seeds that helped me to wake up.

That is my goal. I know that the WTBT$ will never change. I see that now, but I'd like to have an impact on my family and friends. If it ends up going badly, at least I have my integrity.

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Recording that would blow up viral!

by aintenoughwiskey in

i was wondering if anyone had an audio recording of a woman, preferably a minor being asked the intimate details of a fornication jc.

that would hit the fan hard.

tim3l0rd

That would be HUGE! Unfortunately most don't wake up until their in the middle of or after their JC.

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i committed the unforgiveable sin

by 060702015 in

everyday i wake up with knots in my stomach and trouble breathing.

my life continues to go into a downward spiral.

in the past, i had my dependence on god.

tim3l0rd

@06072015

It will get better. At least you have an education. In the long run, it will serve you well. I've found that most jobs are obtained via networking. You have to know someone to get a job, at least for a good job. I've only been hired for one job where I did not have a contact within the company. Every other job or promotion has always been based on who I knew and networking.

Whatever field you are interested in, look around for a club or trade group that you could join. If you can't find anything, look for volunteer opportunities in your community. Many times you will run into people that can assist you with getting your foot in the door. The best jobs are usually the ones that never get advertised and networking is the only way to find those.

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I want serious answers from WT leaders, possible?

by Powermetal4ever in

jw
friends

what would happen if i would write a physical letter to, for example, the branch office.

and ask questions about scandals like the ngo thing and other stuff?

or ask questions about wtbs economy, or ask for a annual report, which is something i would really like to read.

tim3l0rd

This is actually my plan. While I won't write about the NGO, I have a scandal in mind to write about and put my name on the letter. I want the letter to sound innocent, but state that their actions have stumbled me or caused some questioning and see what happens. If it gets forwarded to my boe and gets blown out of proportion, I plan on recording all the meetings with them and maybe using them to show my family the ridiculousness of the org.

From other peoples' experiences, it seems that the letters either go unanswered or get forwarded to the boe. Once it makes it to the boe, it can get ugly.

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Disfellowshipping Image

by naazira in

jw
friends

this photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.

why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.

just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.

tim3l0rd

@Hold Me- Thrill Me

I disagree that she appears as one of them. She's modestly dressed by the standards of people outside the borg, but, from experience, I can tell you that her dress would not be approved by many elder bodies. Her dress is not below the knees, my wife and I (because they can't counsel her without her husband present) have been counseled for this. Her dress is form fitting, which has been spoken against many times from the stage, whereas the other women have jackets or baggy sweaters to cover their form. She's wearing heels, which in recent years it seems the GB have been rallying against not just at RCs but also at KHs. We can't see the other women's shoes but it's conspicuous by the absence of their shoes.

To me it's obvious that they are trying to subliminally imply that her dress is unacceptable and even possibly that is what led her to "sin".

150

Disfellowshipping Image

by naazira in

jw
friends

this photo can be found in the april 15 , study edition article titled:.

why disfellowshipping is a loving provision.

just by looking at this image we can see how quickly the barrier between the congregation and former member is put up, after the announcement that this sister is no longer one of jehovah's witneses.

tim3l0rd

@The Searcher

I was one of those people. Per the elders' manual, your repentance has to be greater than your sin. First off, that information is not provided to those who are going through the process. Secondly, many people express emotions differently. Third, how are three men who can't read hearts supposed to judge my level of repentance? Fourth, how can you judge how great a sin is?

The whole process is a gross misuse of power.

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i committed the unforgiveable sin

by 060702015 in

everyday i wake up with knots in my stomach and trouble breathing.

my life continues to go into a downward spiral.

in the past, i had my dependence on god.

tim3l0rd

@06072015,

I am one of those who grew up as a JW, loved Jehovah, and thought I had a normal life. It sucks waking up in your 30s realizing that most of your life was a lie. It is better to do research now and realize that JWs do not have the "truth".

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tv.jw.org allergy

by TheFadingAlbatros in

i'm allergic when watching to the faces of the gb members on tv.jw.org.

i think in my case that hypocrisy that i can detect on their different faces each new coming month may be at the origin of my allergy.

are you suffering from the same allergy as me ?

tim3l0rd

This is my problem: I can't stand watching any of this crap anymore or even preparing for the meetings, but I really need to so I can help my wife see the flaws in the logic. UUUGGGHHHHH!

Every time I think, "Ok, now I'll get my wife to sit down and watch this or study this", I end up throwing up a little in my mouth and my brain nopes out of there. Since she won't look at anything apostate, I have to find things in JW land, but I'm so repulsed by it that I can only stand a few minutes at most and usually not even that.

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

tim3l0rd

This goes along with the 2013 WT that changed the definition of the FDSL. There would be a period where the anointed were not discernible because the "enemy" was sowing weeds and they were allowed to grow together with the wheat.

WT 7/15/2013

4 Speaking about the wheat and the weeds, Jesus said: “Let both grow together until the harvest.” This command reveals that from the first century until today, there have always been some anointed wheatlike Christians on earth. That conclusion is confirmed by what Jesus later told his disciples: “I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matt. 28:20) So anointed Christians would be protected by Jesus all the days leading up to the time of the end. However, since they were overgrown by weedlike Christians, we do not know for certain who belonged to the wheat class during that long period of time. However, some decades before the start of the harvest season, the wheat class became discernible. How did that come about?

So no FDSL during that time. They needed a way to explain this because they have never been able to prove that the FDSL continued in succession after the apostles died.