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  Top Dog Volunteer

  by pontoon in

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  from the first bethel layoffs some time ago i began to wonder how does one volunteer layoff, fire another volunteer?

  they're suppose to be the same, equal volunteers.

  the volunteer that does the firing----where did his authority come from?

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  Seriously! What brotherly love! I'd die for you, but I have no problem telling you to get out while I stay!
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  Using the internet can destroy your Faith.

  by James Mixon in

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  that's the conclusion of a study showing that the dramatic drop in religious affiliation.

  in the u.s since 1990 is closely mirrored by the increase in internet use.

  of the u.s population had no religious preference.

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  No longer do "apostates" have to look like raving lunatics picketing outside conventions in order to garner attention from JWs and the media.
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  The new changes is a clear indication that we are one step closer to the end...

  by RobertT18 in

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  that was today's topic over a group chat of my cong's young jbots.

  apparently the rumors are circulating everywhere i go, even people from the spanish congs are talking about it.

  what's really sad is that the majority of people are already seeing this as "clear" signs of the end coming.

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  Yep CD is a bitch.

  It's also an annual thing now for the GB to drum up some reason for the R&F to think the end is near. I wonder how many years in a row they can repeat the same excitement before the R&F start to wake-up en masse. I know they've been drumming the end is near drum for 100+ years, but it seems like there is a yearly cycle now around October with pepperings of Alarmageddon in between.
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  Will Gilead Go Away?

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just a total speculative thought i had.

  with branches getting cut, special pioneers getting sacked, and bethel members going byebye, is there a need for gilead still?

  (co's are probably on the block too lests be honest).. if they got rid of that i feel that would be huge.

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  I just discovered Islay Scotch about a month ago and bought my first bottle of Laphroaig a couple of weeks ago. That smokey pete moss flavor is really awesome!
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  It's easy to gloat about WTS problems ...

  by Simon in

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  .. and fun too !

  :d. what?

  were you expecting a "but"?

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  I think it will take some time for all of these changes to sink in. Many of those that I know are excited about the layoffs and think it is a sign that the GT is near. They don't yet know about the changes after the annual meeting, but since the 3 TMS talks are being replaced by 4 talks (1 bible reading followed by 3 student presentations) I think that they will take this change as further evidence of the push toward preaching and teaching because the end is near.

  Some will eventually re-examine these changes and come to the realization of TTATT, but it won't be immediate for many.
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  More rumors, 500 families laid off from South African bethel.

  by bohm in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  from a recent reddit thread:.

  i just received confirmation from a very trusted source in south africa bethel that up to 500 "families" (i imagine couples or singles) are getting let go from that branch.. also confirmed is the special pioneer cull.. what really strikes me about the layoffs is that the south african bethel provides literature and other needs for most of africa, a huge growth area for the org.. .

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  Africa may be a growth area for the Dark Lords, but they are without a doubt going to be the most expensive and the least profitable customers to serve, from a business standpoint. And the Dark Lords are running a business. These are 'customers' no business would pursue until they could develop a profit model. And that doesn't appear to be possible in the near or long terms.

  That would indicate that they are aware that they are running a business and aren't just deluded religious zealots. I don't believe that is the case. I think they are all drinking the kool-aid even at the top. They can still provide literature from other branches and sending 500 people "into the field", in their minds, may help grow the congregations in that area.
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  On the realization you will not "live forever"

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  something struck me last week.

  i have been dealing with what i can only describe as a fear of death.

  i'm not old and not in bad health.

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  I came to that realization as well recently. It's like hitting a brick wall. Now I feel that there is so much that I want to do that I've put off. I get anxious with every day that passes.
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  Why don't you do anything?

  by WireRider in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).

  i joined the blog a few weeks ago.

  i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.

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  If there really are around 35% disgruntled JWs, I'd love to be involved in an organized walk-out. If 1/3 stood up and walked out half-way through the public talk it would make a huge impression. The problem is uniting everyone. Everyone is afraid of being found out and losing family. Even finding those that disagree with the org is hard enough let alone organize a protest that all could agree on/live with.
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  Watchtower Society: something terribly going on - scenarios

  by Gorbatchov in

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  if an (aggressive) real estate fund is stopping it's operations directly,.

  and if an publishing house is minimize the portfolio,.

  and if a member of it's board of directors is telling the costs are higher then the profits,.

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  James,

  Think about all the expenses that the average JW has: gas for field service, providing hospitality for visiting speakers, travel to conventions and assemblies, greasing the palms of COs, working for free on construction projects, etc. Combine this with lower than average income and increasing cost of living and their disposable income is quickly reduced to almost nothing. It's even worse for pioneers and especially pioneer couples.

  I know many JWs who feel that they contribute quite a lot to the "work" by all of the above and so contribute very little through direct monetary contributions.
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  How many people are there at Bethel?

  by bohm in

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  2. friends

  rumor has it 1600 people are going to be re-allocated to the field from bethel (which i assume refers to the brooklyn complex?).

  does anyone know how many people will then remain?

  i have tried to find figures for the number of employed people but i am coming up with nothing.

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  I am becoming more and more convinced it might make sense to create some sort of WT-timeline wikipedia which track key stats and events in the WT history for instance sorted as: doctrinal changes, printing statistics and reduction in staff.

  ^^^^THIS^^^^

  I would love to see this!