The Switchtower Babble & Trick Society twists the scriptures to fit whatever their agenda is at that time! Whether the application is correct or not they don’t care as long as it fits what they!
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The Body of Elders
by Honesty inis this a scriptural arrangement that can be backed up in the bible or just another form of control over the rank and file jw's?
i can't see where the jw's have followed the apostolic example recorded in the book of acts.
acts 6:1-6 in those days, as the number of the disciples was multiplying, there arose a complaint by the hellenistic jews against the hebraic jews that their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution.
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EACH ONE MUST WATCH HIMSELF
by Rooster ineach one must watch himself.
shortly after jesus resurrection and ascension to heaven he formed the christian congregation, on pentecost day of the year 33 c.e.
there the "faithful and discreet slave" class, with jesus apostles taking the lead, began to feed the individuals in gods newly formed household of faith with spiritual food.
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Entertainment my friend! ; ; Hmmm I think I'd be more entertained hanging outside of the public toilet watching people come and go......
Think about seeing a doctor soon.
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EACH ONE MUST WATCH HIMSELF
by Rooster ineach one must watch himself.
shortly after jesus resurrection and ascension to heaven he formed the christian congregation, on pentecost day of the year 33 c.e.
there the "faithful and discreet slave" class, with jesus apostles taking the lead, began to feed the individuals in gods newly formed household of faith with spiritual food.
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Entertainment my friend!
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The Body of Elders
by Honesty inis this a scriptural arrangement that can be backed up in the bible or just another form of control over the rank and file jw's?
i can't see where the jw's have followed the apostolic example recorded in the book of acts.
acts 6:1-6 in those days, as the number of the disciples was multiplying, there arose a complaint by the hellenistic jews against the hebraic jews that their widows were being overlooked in the daily distribution.
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8 Another problem that Jude addresses is the lack of respect for divinely constituted authority. For instance, in verse 8 he charges the same wicked men with "speaking abusively of glorious ones." Who were these "glorious ones"? They were imperfect men, but they had responsibilities conferred upon them by Jehovah’s holy spirit. For example, the congregations had elders, who were charged with shepherding the flock of God. (1 Peter 5:2) There were traveling overseers too, such as the apostle Paul. And the body of elders in Jerusalem acted as a governing body, making decisions affecting the Christian congregation as a whole. (Acts 15:6) Jude was deeply concerned that certain ones in the congregations were speaking abusively of, or blaspheming, such men.
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To denounce such disrespectful talk, in verse 11, Jude cites three more examples as reminders: Cain, Balaam, and Korah. Cain ignored Jehovah’s loving counsel and willfully pursued his own course of murderous hatred. (Genesis 4:4-8) Balaam received repeated warnings that unquestionably came from a supernatural source—even his own she-ass spoke to him! But Balaam selfishly continued to plot against God’s people. (Numbers 22:28, 32-34; Deuteronomy 23:5) Korah had his own position of responsibility, but it was not enough. He fomented rebellion against the meekest man on the earth, Moses.—Numbers 12:3; 16:1-3, 32.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses....
by Honesty invictims of an evil group of men masquerading as the voice of god?
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This ‘beating their fellow slaves’ in a verbal way would be because they wanted to dominate or exercise power over others. They desired a high position so that they would be looked up to. But they could not achieve their ambition. Christ would not let any such disloyal ones have domination over or break up his congregation and stop the work it is doing. Instead, on inspection, Christ would "cut asunder" such ones, cutting such individuals off from the "faithful and discreet slave" class
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EACH ONE MUST WATCH HIMSELF
by Rooster ineach one must watch himself.
shortly after jesus resurrection and ascension to heaven he formed the christian congregation, on pentecost day of the year 33 c.e.
there the "faithful and discreet slave" class, with jesus apostles taking the lead, began to feed the individuals in gods newly formed household of faith with spiritual food.
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EACH ONE MUST WATCH HIMSELF
Shortly after Jesus’ resurrection and ascension to heaven he formed the Christian congregation, on Pentecost day of the year 33 C.E. There the "faithful and discreet slave" class, with Jesus’ apostles taking the lead, began to feed the individuals in God’s newly formed ‘household of faith’ with spiritual food. (Acts 2:1, 14, 46, 47) This "slave" class, the spirit-anointed Christian congregation, would remain loyal right down to the time of Christ’s coming to destroy the present wicked system of things.—Matt. 28:18-20.
Nevertheless, Jesus gave a warning to them with respect to loyalty. Why? Well, as a class, God’s congregation would remain faithful. The Bible shows that the foreordained number of 144,000 would be completed. That number would eventually be "sealed" as faithful. (Rev. 7:1-8; 14:1-5) Thus ‘all [spiritual] Israel [or, the Israel of God] would be saved.’ (Rom. 11:26; compare Galatians 6:16.) But as to individuals who would make up that body, or that "slave" class, each one was to be tried, tested and required to prove his integrity and loyalty. "He that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved," Jesus said.—Matt. 24:13; Jas. 1:3; Rev. 14:12.
Accordingly, after speaking of the "faithful and discreet slave" that would be loyal till his coming, Jesus went on to say: "But if that evil slave should say in his heart, ‘My master is delaying,’ and should start to beat his fellow slaves and should eat and drink with the confirmed drunkards [literally, the (ones) getting drunk], the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and will punish him with the greatest severity (literally, he will cut asunder him] and will assign him his part with the hypocrites."—Matt. 24:48-51; Luke 12:45, 46, Kingdom Interlinear Translation.
We note that Jesus did not say that the "faithful and discreet slave" would turn disloyal. But, as to the individual members of that "slave" class, Jesus merely indicated the possibility that not all would be loyal, just as one of the twelve, Judas, after a right start, had turned out bad. Jehovah God will have only loyal, tested ones as inheritors of the Kingdom. (2 Pet. 1:10, 11) Jesus therefore warned each one of his spirit-begotten, anointed followers to watch himself. He said to all his disciples: "Keep awake, then, all the time making supplication that you may succeed in escaping all these things that are destined to occur, and in standing before the Son of man."—Luke 21:36.
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The LETTER Posted at all Kingdom Halls
by Apostate Kate in.
i know someone here must know about the letter and there is a thread somewhere.
can someone link me to that thread either in pm or here on the new letter posted in all the kingdom halls about them admitting they are not inspired etc ... thank you!
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3 True, the loyalty of one may impress and influence others, but it is exhibited, not for that purpose, but because of one’s allegiance. Nor must one person’s loyalty be the controlling factor to force others to the same conclusion. However, where a group are all of the same opinion and determination from personal conviction, and all voluntarily united, then such is a loyal company. Today Jehovah’s witnesses are the only group of people holding true to God’s law, his rule of action. They are loyal to the highest authorities in the universe, Jehovah and Christ Jesus, and faithfully adhere to the theocratic government, giving unswerving allegiance to it and to its King. Also these witnesses recognize the arrangement Jehovah has established by creating the "faithful and discreet slave", now having the complete responsibility over all the Master’s goods and possessions on earth. They acknowledge readily and willingly the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society as the legal servant of the "faithful and discreet slave", and are loyal to it, also to the truth and to their brothers in the faith. Loyalty is known only when it is demonstrated, and it is actually revealed when there is trouble, adversity and temptation. Once it is manifested, however, confidence in the loyal one results.
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Service Meeting week of December 26, 2005
by TheListener insong 85.
10 min: local announcements.. 15 min: local needs.. 20 min: new features of awake!
mention the adjustments to awake!
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Your Service Meetings
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STARTING JANUARY 11Theme: Showing Appreciation for God’s Revelations. Song 26.
5 min: Introduction, text and comments.15
min: Reasons for Vacation Pioneering. Questions and answers on insert "Enjoy the Privilege of Vacation Pioneering." (Where appropriate one question may cover more than one paragraph. For instance, the question "Why do many vacation pioneer?" may be used to cover several paragraphs, giving opportunity for many comments.) Cover insert from beginning down to the heading "A Fine Time to Vacation Pioneer." Last paragraph before this heading can be read in conclusion. Congregation servant: Encourage the brothers to read this material before coming to meeting.15
min: "Show Appreciation for God’s Revelations." Before beginning discussion of "Kingdom Ministry" article, ask audience where they feel they can obtain new subscriptions. Call on several publishers, to get as many suggestions as possible. Also, ask the publishers what "The Watchtower" has done for them and their family. Entertain several comments. Then suggest that they may want to mention some of these benefits when offering subscriptions to others.After getting number of comments on the above questions, cover by questions and answers the points in the article "Show Appreciation for God’s Revelations."
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min: "A Warning from Ancient Rome." Audience discussion.(25 min.) Remind congregation what went on in Rome. For example: From October 22, 1969, "Awake!," page 9, read first two sentences under heading "Lovers of Money." Then, ask congregation what parallels we see in the old system of things today.
Read first sentence under heading "Without Self-Control" on page 10. Then ask congregation what parallels we see in this old system of things today. Make reference to fact that the Romans were "A Brutal People." Ask for parallels today.
(40 min.) Review upbuilding Scriptural counsel. Read Gal. 6:7, 8 and encourage congregation to keep separate from unchristian practices of this system. Ask congregation to refer to scriptures that counsel against love of money and dishonesty. Ask also for comments on the advantages that come to Christians from following this counsel of God’s Word.
Similarly, ask for scriptures that counsel against immorality and brutality. Then, ask the congregation for benefits that come to them from following such counsel. Draw out the congregation. Encourage the brothers to express themselves.
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Do you have a biblical name?
by ButtLight inor know of people that do?
i wonder how many out there have named their kids from names from the bible.
two of my kids are on the list, but it wasnt done on purpose.
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Revelation—Its Grand Climax is in Hand!
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denying that I was baptized seems to have worked!
by mkr32208 ina few weeks ago i was told that i would be having a jc on such and such a date... i declined to attend but send a note via my mother that said;.
as i was never baptized you need to leave me alone.
baptized persons who have not associated for some time.
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Once a person becomes one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, is he always counted as such?
No, Jehovah’s Witnesses are not like religions who hold, ‘Once a member, always a member.’ A small percentage of individuals choose to disassociate themselves from the Christian congregation or are expelled because they are unrepentant wrongdoers.
On one occasion many disciples turned away from Jesus and "would no longer walk with him." (John 6:66) The Bible also explains that if a Christian unrepentantly practices gross sin, the congregation is to ‘remove the wicked man from among themselves’ and ‘quit mixing in company with him.’—1 Corinthians 5:9-13.
Thus, today, if a Christian falls into a course of sin, a committee of spiritually qualified elders meets with him. They want to see if he is repentant and can be readjusted. (Galatians 6:1) If not, the elders obey the Bible’s direction to disfellowship the sinner so that the congregation will be "free from ferment."—1 Corinthians 5:7.
Or, as mentioned in John 6:66, occasionally a Witness on his own initiative will decide to leave the way of truth. He may even make known his decision after the committee begins to look into his wrongdoing. He may inform them in writing, or state before witnesses, that he wants to disassociate himself from the congregation and not be known as a Witness. Then it will no longer be necessary for the elders to continue their investigation. However, the elders would then make a brief announcement of his disassociation so that the congregation will know that he "went out from us." (1 John 2:19) They then will adhere to the inspired injunction ‘not to receive such a one into their homes or say a greeting to him, so as not to become sharers in his wicked works.’—2 John 10, 11.
Hence, people are not compelled to remain a part of the devil's congregation. But the vast majority of Jehovah’s Witnesses have the attitude of the apostles who voluntarily stuck by Jesus, receiving his spiritual help and enjoying the warm fellowship of God’s congregation.—Luke 22:28