story in the guardian: .
"--freedom of expression, as guaranteed by article 10 of the european convention on human rights, includes the right “not to express an opinion which one does not hold”, hale added.
“this court has held that nobody should be forced to have or express a political opinion in which he does not believe,” she said.--".
You think sexual orientation is a choice that can be changed? I don't think I've heard anybody personally share that belief with me since the 80s.
Just wondering, do you also support camps or counseling programs that try to change people's sexual orientation?
not only are their different translations from different denominations ,like the greek orthodox ,russian orthodox ,roman catholic .various protestant versions and others as well as the nwt of jw`s.. however various denominations print different versions of the bible which fair enough may only be minor differences yet at the same time they are differences to what they previously printed .?.
and some have serious discrepancies .. as if they are trying to get to the true meaning of what god or jesus christ actually said or meant ?.
are they for real ?
It might be helpful to do some research on traditional Folklore. Probably since the beginning of time, stories (true or not) were primarily passed down by word of mouth, and as they were passed down, they changed.
At some point in time, the "biblical" stories (true or not) were finally written down. And then copied. And then copied again.
If you think about how many times the stories were orally retold and subsequently copied, there is no way to know what the true, original story is. Every reteller or rewriter could have taken liberties to change what they want to fit their won interpretations and beliefs.
Some people complain about the many different translations that are out on the market today, insisting so many are "wrong" (and indeed, many do not adhere to the oldest available copies known to be in existence), but fail to realize that these oldest copies of Biblical text that are in existence are probably equally wrong. We just don't know it because it seems to be accepted as "fact" that these ancient texts are the original texts, and that is far from the truth.
my husband and i were talking about the shunning part that the jws do?
where can i find more accurate information on this subject?
i am mainly trying to learn when the whole practice started, and stuff like that.
If you really want to know when shunning was first ordered to occur, it was in the late 1800s/early 1900s when Charles and Maria Russell were separated.
Charles didn't like Maria expressing her personal views about the Bible and other issues. He wrote letters to her friends and family ordering them not to speak to her or allow her to visit.
Shunning within the Watchtower society runs deep. It was only a matter of time before it became official policy.
story in the guardian: .
"--freedom of expression, as guaranteed by article 10 of the european convention on human rights, includes the right “not to express an opinion which one does not hold”, hale added.
“this court has held that nobody should be forced to have or express a political opinion in which he does not believe,” she said.--".
Normally, I would say... let people vote with their money. If the general public doesn't like how somebody conducts business with their other customers, don't ever go there; tell your friends not to go there. They will put themselves out of business by their own behavior.
Where this kind of situation gets sticky is determining where personally expression of personal belief and violation of civil rights start to impede on each other.
Yes, the owner should be allowed to practice and express their personal beliefs.
Yes, citizens should be able to walk into any business and receive service that doesn't discriminate against their race, gender, or sexual orientation.
Whose rights are greater?
There's really no good answer go satisfy everybody. The courts have wavered back and forth on whose rights are more important for a very long time. It will interesting to see where the court of public opinion stands on this issue 20 years from now.
Personally, I think civil rights should always win out. Opinions and beliefs can be changed. You can't change what you were born with (race, gender, sexual orientation).
didn't they use to print crossword puzzles in the awake?
i vaguely remember my mother doing them, and me trying to do them when i was a small child.
is this an accurate memory or could i be thinking of a non-jw publication.
Yes, Watching the World always slammed the Catholics. Does JW literature still attack the Catholics as much as they did in 70s/80s?
I do remember them condemning the Catholic Church for their responses to child sex abuse. How ironic.
i think she’s very intelligent and dignified.
plus, in my humble opinion, i rate her as the most attractive first lady ever..
Ask CNN wild thing
Min ... I don't even know what that means.
I'm through with this debate for now. Have a lovely day.
i think she’s very intelligent and dignified.
plus, in my humble opinion, i rate her as the most attractive first lady ever..
I just typed in Washington post got on the main page it’s the 17th article regarding Melania so please😴
How long do you think an article about an interview with the FLOTUS should remain at the top? In today's fast moving news cycle, I am honestly surprised it is still on the front page, but it is there. I did not notice any articles about Trump's penis, though. Perhaps, it was just too small for me to see.
i think she’s very intelligent and dignified.
plus, in my humble opinion, i rate her as the most attractive first lady ever..
Oh look, here it is ... "buried" on the front page of their website:
i think she’s very intelligent and dignified.
plus, in my humble opinion, i rate her as the most attractive first lady ever..
I look at the Washington post New York daily news New York post etc.I have seen more coverage of President Trump’s shape of his penis more than I have about how the first lady defended her husband and spoke of her independence. Not as newsworthy I guess.
Are you reading a different Washington Post and New York newspapers than I do? This has not been my experience. I would have to see this documented to believe it.
And by the way, everyone likes news stories that speak to their own beliefs, but just because a news story isn't flattering to the FLOTUS, doesn't mean it should be discounted. I have seen a considerable number of stories that talk about her claim that she is one of the most bullied persons in the world. THIS merits debate and conversation, especially since her husband is widely seen as a social media bully. An article that just talks about her defending her husband and how she is an independent woman, while important, isn't very discussion worthy or debatable.
when did you guys start to doubt your faith in god?'.
what made you doubt your faith in god?.
thanks !.
When I was 14, I prayed to Jehovah and said that I would dedicate my life to him and pioneer if he would stop my dad from abusing us.
"He" didn't. I didn't even want to be a JW anymore by the time I finished my first year of pioneering when I was 15. I realized JW elders were assholes, including my dad.
