That's just crazy talk!
I would hope that the CIA have bigger fish to fry. I know the org would like to think that they are that important, but they aren't!
the watchtowers call to all congregations for accountants and lawyers especially those familiar with tax laws makes me seriously think they may be in hot water.
since the watchtower organization has been very vocal especially in the past about its anti-government stanse and its df'ing of persons that join the military,or other government jobs, i'm willing to speculate that the united state counter intellignece agency has seen the need to sneak some of its agents inside the wt, for internal security purposes.
also i'm sure that the internal revenue has been keeping a close eye on the gb,, the reason being that they are a huge cash cow, and a dishonest coniving mind control cult.
That's just crazy talk!
I would hope that the CIA have bigger fish to fry. I know the org would like to think that they are that important, but they aren't!
does the org "trust in jehovah" only when it can't control everything itself ?
a stranger they will not follow.....they do not know the voice of strangers
so why the savage fear of "apostate" information ?
"Trust in Jehovah" and "Wait on Jehovah" are both cop-outs to release them from doing NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!
the following is quoted in it's entirety (excepting cited scriptures after each question) from the new release organized to do jehovah's will, pages 182-218.. .
questions for those desiring to be baptized.
part 1 elementary bible teachings.
I would love to see Quotes put this section up on his website. In fact, I think all JWs should present this list of questions to everyone they ever place a mag with! After looking at that list, I do not understand how they continue to acquire converts! (Except for those poor kids brainwashed since birth)
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7231414/
'scarborough country' for march 17 .
read the transcript to the thursday show
Yeah and after they got his autograph, people told him to BEAT IT! Ha ha! (bad joke)
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/7231414/
'scarborough country' for march 17 .
read the transcript to the thursday show
Well if Jesse Jackson said it, it MUST be true!!!!!!!!
anybody ever heard of him?
how about david sublet?
just wondering ....
I'm sorry Valis! I think we might be related! My family is all crazy too! My dad was also very abusive and an elder. He got away with it for a long time. The elders did nothing. One of the times my mother spoke to an elder about it in ONE of the congregations we were in, he commended her for not bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name by making it public, since my dad was a leader! It still makes me mad! And Dr. P and all that therapy absolutely did not help anyone in my family, as they are still in the org and still crazy! But it got us out of a very bad situation, after he messed up his wife and three girls! That is more than anyone in the congo was willing to do, once our situation could no longer be hidden anymore.
Now my dad is still somewhere in Texas hiding from the witnesses, and I am safe and sound up here in the Midwest! There were some guys in chat the other night talking about practicing their Kung Fu. If they are still interested, I think I can hook you up! (And go for the throat! )
if they any of them had or have children that needed a blood transfusion to live, i wonder if they would deny their children blood and watch them die for the watchtower society?.
or would you see a quick change of doctrine?
ie: new light?.
Nope! Don't think so! I think they would let them die in a heartbeat! So sad, but I think they would.
Crazy old bastards ...
anybody ever heard of him?
how about david sublet?
just wondering ....
LOL @ Valis! Come on! Tell us! What do you know about Dr. P?
anybody ever heard of him?
how about david sublet?
just wondering ....
Sounds like that whacked out JW doctor down in Houston: Dr. Riggle. He diagnosed everyone as paranoid schizophrenic, put them on Mellaril, read them Bible scriptures and had them buy fifty different jars of Bronson vitamins (cheap grocery store variety) at jacked up prices!
Actually, I don't think Dr. P was that whacked. He was never a JW and he never prescribed pills, though I think he worked closely with psychiatrists who did. Anyway, he was just a psychologist who served more as a counselor, for good or bad, as you have heard already!
How sad they put you in the care of a JW whacko! I think it's kinda funny that everyone was diagnosed as schizophrenic, though! LOL! I have been in some congregations where I would not be surprised!
Seriously, I am glad you got out of that mess! A JW doctor practicing psychiatry is like ... well I don't what its like.... but its not right! LOL! Like a butcher performing heart surgery, maybe?
anybody ever heard of him?
how about david sublet?
just wondering ....
It does sound familiar to me, but not from Dr Picchioni... I think you'll find that breakdown in just about any book on codependency. I don't know who it's originally credited to.
Right! This is definitely not from Dr. Picchioni. He just relayed this model to his patients. I thought this was the model that Bradshaw came up with, but I could be wrong. I think it is nothing short of a miracle that witnesses were allowed to hear about it at all. After all, there is no such thing as a dysfunctional JW family, is there?
I'm glad Dr P brought it to Witnesses, however. Too many Witnesses with mental illnesses seem to be looking for anti-depressants to cure everything, and not looking at actually making changes in their lives.
I believe when this program was in existence, the society was just loosening up about obtaining mental health care. I see the opposite happening again now, where it is strongly discouraged, but oddly enough it is okay to medicate it! What is the message? It is okay to drug the problem, but not okay to deal with it!