bottom line money not god.
to grow a religion you need money and suckers who fall for your particular line of logic.. take away it's money to take away it's power.
the ceos of the watchtower corporation are running the religion/business into the ground because they can't make good business decisions and are caught in a awful web of delusions of grander and blind to the realities of the real world.
Village Idiot, I was about to say the exact same thing. Many cults and religious groups have come into existence and stayed without a high influx of money.
If the WTBTS were to go completely bankrupt tomorrow, it would not affect their membership one iota, and would in fact probably strengthen it because they would view it as being persecuted in Satan's world.
The Society has a lot of power over their members because the rank and file give them that power willingly.
why didn't jesus ever write anything?
why are there no letters to jesus?
no painting of jesus from that time?
I think the reason Jesus never wrote anything down is because he was homeschooled. Stay in school, kids.
i was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?
i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.
Thanks, JeffT, for the list of possible crimes listed in the Flock book. I can't believe they have narrowed all transgressions down to just those listed. I bet if we were to list off the ways to get disfellowshipped, the list would be quite long.
Since I have been out (13-14 years now), I have done at least 50 things and they felt great!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
to funny nice job....
Nice job. They just reinforced the witnesses' deluded vision of what they think all apostates are like.
Thanks for making life harder for the rest of us. Slow. Clap.
just found out (second hand of course) and by someone on here that my faithful jw mum passed away within the last couple of days, dont know the exact day, and what cause, she spent the last few years living with my fanatical sister, she was 65 and survived my father by 10 years, bitter, angry and hateful till the end and never as so much enquired or asked how her 2 grandchildren ever were , they are 5 and 7!
feeling a mixture of emotions right now, they were lousy parents in all honesty, she suffered health wise so maybe its for the best, dont even know when the funeral is!
i was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?
i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.
I was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone? I know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
A couple of years ago I traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old JW acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person. So what do you think the official reason on the paperwork said? "Disfellowshipped for talking to Jason"? I imagine they put a twist on it so it doesn't as juvenile as it really is.
saturday night in the country where i am from, i am sitting by my computer alone and drinking and having some thoughts.
hos sad isnt that?
.....i am feeling a bit down right now and dont know what to do.had a call from my mum, she was among other things saying that its not very good that i dont go to meetings if they are not (she and my dad.
I think everybody on here has probably reported fake hours in the beginning of leaving. Its just part of the process, I guess.
The bottom line is: there is no graceful way to bow out of this religion. This is a system of their creation. Unfortunately, a little deception and a few white lies are sometimes necessary in hopes you come out of it as unscathed as possible. I wouldn't challenge your parents on any issue to try to justify why you are leaving. I would leave quietly, with as little fanfare as possible. That's what I did. It takes a while, but its better in the long run.
are their any newer people here, who recently found out ttatt, who has been disturbed by all the new changes in the organization?
it is turning into something that feels impersonal.
i know change is good.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-machete-attack-new-orleans-airport-has-died-n327841.
Perhaps it might help to read other reports on this from different news sources. Some give different details than others. The article I originally read was from my local tv news station website. I didn't want to post something local, so I quickly found a national source that I thought would provide the same facts.
Here is another source: http://www.examiner.com/article/richard-white-machete-attacker-white-was-jehovah-s-witness-dies-at-hospital
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-machete-attack-new-orleans-airport-has-died-n327841.
