"there are only three reasons you should miss a meeting.
fever, fracture or funeral.
everything else is a sorry excuse.
Yes, I have heard that one and many more.
Is it any wonder that Witnesses also sell Shaklee, Avon, etc.? If you've ever been to one of those types of meetings (especially Shaklee!) you know what I am talking about. It's all just a sales pitch, and they keep recycling the same tired sayings.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
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pbrow says:
I could give two shits about the adults in this hall. In this day and age where virtually all kids have access to google and are not afraid to use it, (unlike us adults at first) at least one kid will google that name. The adults are a lost cause.
To claim that this was done for the kiddies is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. First of all, you're out of touch of how controlled JWs still are. Many are still too scared to even have a Facebook account ... not just adults ... kids, too. My 15 year old niece still does not have any type of social media account beyond her Instagram account, which is, of course, completely locked down. And I promise you ... she would never, ever WANT to google the name of some screaming man in the Kingdom Hall shouting, "I'm on Facebook and YouTube! Find me! I'll set you free!" As several have already said, she would be scared to death!
Do you know what fear does to the brain? It shuts down the reasoning part of your brain, and let's face it, teenagers don't have much of that to begin with. I cannot imagine any child, teenager, or adult observing what I just saw on that video and think, "Hmmm ... he seems like a stable, reasonable person. I'm gonna check him out on YouTube!"
It's not just that the entire stunt was rude and disrespectful, it was also counterproductive to what the makers even intended, (which I assume is for JWs to see the organization for what it really is).
I do not understand how three adults could get together and think this was a good idea.
bottom line money not god.
to grow a religion you need money and suckers who fall for your particular line of logic.. take away it's money to take away it's power.
the ceos of the watchtower corporation are running the religion/business into the ground because they can't make good business decisions and are caught in a awful web of delusions of grander and blind to the realities of the real world.
Village Idiot, I was about to say the exact same thing. Many cults and religious groups have come into existence and stayed without a high influx of money.
If the WTBTS were to go completely bankrupt tomorrow, it would not affect their membership one iota, and would in fact probably strengthen it because they would view it as being persecuted in Satan's world.
The Society has a lot of power over their members because the rank and file give them that power willingly.
why didn't jesus ever write anything?
why are there no letters to jesus?
no painting of jesus from that time?
I think the reason Jesus never wrote anything down is because he was homeschooled. Stay in school, kids.
i was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?
i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.
Thanks, JeffT, for the list of possible crimes listed in the Flock book. I can't believe they have narrowed all transgressions down to just those listed. I bet if we were to list off the ways to get disfellowshipped, the list would be quite long.
Since I have been out (13-14 years now), I have done at least 50 things and they felt great!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.
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Nice job. They just reinforced the witnesses' deluded vision of what they think all apostates are like.
Thanks for making life harder for the rest of us. Slow. Clap.
just found out (second hand of course) and by someone on here that my faithful jw mum passed away within the last couple of days, dont know the exact day, and what cause, she spent the last few years living with my fanatical sister, she was 65 and survived my father by 10 years, bitter, angry and hateful till the end and never as so much enquired or asked how her 2 grandchildren ever were , they are 5 and 7!
feeling a mixture of emotions right now, they were lousy parents in all honesty, she suffered health wise so maybe its for the best, dont even know when the funeral is!
i was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone?
i know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
a couple of years ago i traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old jw acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person.
I was wondering ... what are all of the "official" reasons provided by elders for disfellowshipping someone? I know the most common reasons are adultery and fornication, but what about the others?
A couple of years ago I traveled back to my hometown` and one of my old JW acquaintances told me that her grown son had been disfellowshipped for refusing to stop associating with another disfellowshipped person. So what do you think the official reason on the paperwork said? "Disfellowshipped for talking to Jason"? I imagine they put a twist on it so it doesn't as juvenile as it really is.
saturday night in the country where i am from, i am sitting by my computer alone and drinking and having some thoughts.
hos sad isnt that?
.....i am feeling a bit down right now and dont know what to do.had a call from my mum, she was among other things saying that its not very good that i dont go to meetings if they are not (she and my dad.
I think everybody on here has probably reported fake hours in the beginning of leaving. Its just part of the process, I guess.
The bottom line is: there is no graceful way to bow out of this religion. This is a system of their creation. Unfortunately, a little deception and a few white lies are sometimes necessary in hopes you come out of it as unscathed as possible. I wouldn't challenge your parents on any issue to try to justify why you are leaving. I would leave quietly, with as little fanfare as possible. That's what I did. It takes a while, but its better in the long run.
are their any newer people here, who recently found out ttatt, who has been disturbed by all the new changes in the organization?
it is turning into something that feels impersonal.
i know change is good.
