Flipper, I have wanted to come to your Lake Tahoe fests for years! But you are quite a ways from the Mid-West and take more financial planning to get there. I hope you keep having them. They sound like a blast, and I have I can make it in the next year or so.
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Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?
by Whynot inmy husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.
has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?
we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.
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Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?
by Whynot inmy husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.
has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?
we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.
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Diogenesister said:
I guess you perhaps feel at what point you need to be able to call in an expert is maybe a concern?Yes, and having resources ready at the helm, in case we need it. It's doable, but would take a lot of planning.
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Are Jehovah's Witnesses selfish??
by stuckinarut2 inis the average jehovah's witness selfish and self-centred?.
i know, i know...many will object and say "no - preaching is the most selfless thing a jw can do.
it saves others lives...".
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I think egocentric would be a better description than selfish. And the organization teaches them to be that way.
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Has anyone started a support group for people leaving cults?
by Whynot inmy husband and i have talked about starting a support group but we feel we don't have the proper qualifications.
has anyone started a support group for ex-jws?
we even thought of hosting a social gathering or meet and greet.
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Wild_Thing
I have been wanting to start a support group in my area, too. I still want to.
But my only concern is that I do not feel equipped to handle the emotional/psychological issues that often come along with leaving.
If anybody else has started a successful face to face support group in their area, I would appreciate also hearing how you handled this issue. I think support groups are important and be a real success, if done right.
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Why the term "waking up?"
by Sour Grapes inis the term "waking up" the best way to describe when a jdub starts to have doubts?
to me, it is rather that a jdub realizes that what they have believed for years was a pack of lies and then they have to make a conscious decision if they want to continue to believe in lies or stop being a jdub or just go along for the ride.. it just amazes me how many die-hard jdubs there are despite every failed prophecy about the end coming, the borg being a part of the dreaded wild best united nations, the put down of women in the borg, the massive cover-up of the child abuse in the borg, the willingness to let a child die because they need blood, and the eagerness to shun a child who at the age of 10 got dunked to make mommy and daddy happy only to not want to be a jdub later and have the parents treat them like they are dead because 8 overweight, balding, goofy looking, incoherent men in upper state new york say that are the rules for being a christain.. jehovah's witnesses are a very sad cult that attracts people with emotional, psychological, or medical issues, have very large egos, can't make simple decisions, and believe in the tooth fairy..
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Wild_Thing
I think "waking up" is the perfect phrase to describe leaving the Witnesses. There are different levels of sleep and of waking up. Neither is automatic. We don't just jump out of bed awake and alert, ready to take on the world right when our alarm goes off. Some of us take a while before we realize the alarm is even going off. Some of us hit the snooze button to give ourselves just a little bit more time. Some of turn the alarm off, roll over and go back to sleep.
Likening that analogy to leaving the Witnesses is exactly the same. For some are active Witnesses, every once in a while, a doubt or internal alarm will go off in their head that told them things were not right. They ignore it over and over. Some will give it a little attention, but eventually brush off the doubts and live their JW life in automatic mode. They hit the snooze button every time it comes up. The consequences of shunning is always there to make that snooze button easier to hit.
It takes a while to wake up completely and realize the gravity of what kind of organization many of us were raised in. Even after I faded completely, I was still only half awake. It has taken me years to completely free myself from those old ingrained JW beliefs and thoughts. Ones I didn't even realize I was still holding onto.
Jehovah's Witnesses don't just attract people with emotional and psychological problems. They create them.
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JWtalk.net is an act of Disobedience
by Londo111 inthe governing body and watchtower publications make clear there is only one official website that jws should go to about their religion.
they do not approve of independent pro-jw forums.
this would also fall in line of there being no independent study groups, on the internet, or elsewhere.. for that matter, they do not approve of jws posting on behalf of their religion on social media, “apostate” websites, or anywhere else on the internet.
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It might also be helpful to remember that this forum we are posting on right now was originally for active Jehovah's Witnesses. Rereading the first thread by Simon is kind of fun! Haha! He invited people to register so they could get to know their "brothers and sisters". Users posted their uncomfortableness posting (but posted anyway) because some users might be "imposters".
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/46/welcome
And this early introduction thread is the best! Everybody rejoices about how long they were raised in "the truth".
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/49/lets-kick-things-off
All ex-jws have to start somewhere. JWTalk's future will be either one of becoming another ex-jw forum or a jumping off place for future ex-jws who want to explore taking the red pill, but are just not quite ready.
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JWtalk.net is an act of Disobedience
by Londo111 inthe governing body and watchtower publications make clear there is only one official website that jws should go to about their religion.
they do not approve of independent pro-jw forums.
this would also fall in line of there being no independent study groups, on the internet, or elsewhere.. for that matter, they do not approve of jws posting on behalf of their religion on social media, “apostate” websites, or anywhere else on the internet.
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I am thankful for groups like JW Talk. Yes, they sound brainwashed and crazy, but its the first step to disobeying the organization. Not all of them will eventually become ex-JWs, but I believe a lot of them could. If they are willing to visit and participate in JWTalk, then they are just short cry from coming to this forum.
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How Apostates saved one town from Armagedon
by Balaamsass2 inan interesting read today about a town once in the control of a religious cult who kept predicting the end of the world, and had a major child abuse problem.
sounds familiar to me.. http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-colorado-city-brewery-2018-story.html.
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I wonder if we will see a Warwick Winery or a Tuxedo Park Tequila Distillery in the future. The JWs do love their alcohol. They might go broke drinking their own product, though. They're going broke drinking their own product right now.
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Fred Franz Former Training in Ancient Greek
by Wild_Thing inhas anyone been able to verify that fred franz received the minimal training in ancient greek that he claimed gave him the expertise to translate the bible?
you would think that would be fairly easy to verify or disprove in this day and age.
what college did he attend?
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Oh recovering! Thank you, thank you! exactly what I was looking for!
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Did Your Taste In Music Change After You Woke Up?
by pale.emperor inafter i awoken from the cult, i went through the normal process of not knowing who i was and what my tastes where.
looking back this was a wonderful time in my life because i experimented and tried different things and now i like or dislike things because i personally like/dislike them - not because i've been told they're good or bad.. black pudding is an example - it's made of blood and is a popular addition here in britain to fried breakfasts.
i tried it for the first time last year and i can confirm that it is indeed revolting.
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Not really. I loved all kinds of music when I was a witness, from classical to the hard rock bands, like Guns 'n' Roses that I wasn't supposed to listen to. The only thing that changed is I didn't feel guilty about it anymore and I didn't feel the need to hide it. Today, I lay my Motley Crue right next to my Mozart without even batting an eyelash.
The only genre of music that I absolutely cannot tolerate to listen to is Christian Rock. It makes my ears bleed.