Wild_Thing

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  Anyone pissed at their parents for raising you in the cult?

  by blownaway in

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  my mother was not the most emotionally stable person.

  she was a follower and instilled in me the idea we were better than those worldly people.

  its hard to go to school as a child and you can not be friends outside of school, you can not celebrate any holidays, and you are told all these people are going to die.

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  At times, yes, but most of the time, no. First, blame lies squarely on my grandmother's shoulders. She was the one that converted back in the 50s and got this whole generational mess started. She was poor, uneducated, and a very suppressed female, so I view her as a victim, too. I view my still-in-mother a victim, too, for the same reasons.

  At some point you have to stop being a victim, but you have to have self-realization that you are a victim, first. And therein, lies the conundrum. You had that self realization. Your parents have not. It is painful to watch them continue to be a victim, and it is hard not to be resentful at their continued stupidity.
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  Re: the woman parking attendants and real life

  by carla in

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  2. beliefs

  with much amusement i read the thread on women parking lot attendants and it got me to thinking about life at home for the average jw.. i believe i am correct in thinking that anything to do with jw-ism requires a penis, except all the leg work (fs & pioneers).

  meaning the mic's, talks, etc... but yet the same guy who thinks his wife (or any other woman) is not bright enough to run the sound system for example doesn't mind his wife hauling hay, digging in the yard, managing the checkbook and other various physical jobs as well as jobs that do in fact require a brain larger than that of a gnat?.

  let's say a guy is a bit technologically challenged but he can manage the sound system at the kh ok. i imagine he feels proud that he is getting to do this great privilege?

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  Yeah, they did it for years with the fast food napkins. Then, a circuit overseer came for their visit and found out about it, and told them it was disrespectful and they needed better head coverings. So, the PO's wife went to garage sales and bought a bought of silky scarves to keep at the KH. The lowly women were safe from Jehovah's wrath, once again! Phew! It was a close one! Thankfully, Armageddon did not come during the "paper napkin years". Those things are quite flammable!
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  Satan temping Eve. Had she not ate

  by pleaseresearch in

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  being the loving god that he is :).

  how do you imagine this playing out.

  let's say eve didn't eat and so we didn't fall into sin.. what do you think god would have done with satan and his demons?.

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  The saddest thing about the Adam and Eve story is that it was known to be a myth for centuries, but at some point, religious leaders decided the myth should be read as a literal story that actually happened, and left out other parts of the original mythic story.

  The real question should be ... what would have happened if religious leaders from the past never took the story as actual fact, and accepted it as a myth?

  Here is some light reading. I found this article from last year really interesting: https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2017/09/rise-and-fall-adam-and-eve-exploring-myth-original-sinners
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  Re: the woman parking attendants and real life

  by carla in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with much amusement i read the thread on women parking lot attendants and it got me to thinking about life at home for the average jw.. i believe i am correct in thinking that anything to do with jw-ism requires a penis, except all the leg work (fs & pioneers).

  meaning the mic's, talks, etc... but yet the same guy who thinks his wife (or any other woman) is not bright enough to run the sound system for example doesn't mind his wife hauling hay, digging in the yard, managing the checkbook and other various physical jobs as well as jobs that do in fact require a brain larger than that of a gnat?.

  let's say a guy is a bit technologically challenged but he can manage the sound system at the kh ok. i imagine he feels proud that he is getting to do this great privilege?

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  Oh, I remember when I was a child, women would regularly conduct field service and say prayer for the weekday service group. It was always the Presiding Overseer's wife. But she had to sit to do it, to show her lowly stature, because you know, standing is a privilege from Jehovah.

  And if there was a young baptized male present, she had to wear a napkin on her head because ... napkins honor God.

  He preferred Dairy Queen.
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  Youtube videos doing the JW rounds. Gods name

  by pleaseresearch in

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  so here in the uk this video is getting jws very excited.

  now my mum actualy said it wa funny to hear jw music at the start and finish.

  so i'm wondering if the watchtower had any input into this.

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  It has always struck me as ironic that JWs are so haughty about insisting that God's name has been removed from the Bible (i.e. "YHWH appears in the Bible 6,000 times", etc.), yet they have no problem taking such liberties with biblical translations elsewhere in the NWT.
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  Nothing in life is stable as a Jehovah's Witness...

  by silentbuddha in

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  at least in hindsight it would appear so.

  i remember as a small kid not making friends because ultimately they were going to die.

  i never saved anything because money would be useless in the new world.

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  And yet, at the time, it all seemed so normal. The longer you are away from it all, the crazier it all seems. Like an f'ed up movie you were once a part of. Some of it seems so surreal.

  I can't believe we use to talk about Armageddon coming so much. I can't believe we used Armageddon as an excuse to not have any life goals outside the Watchtower.
  
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  The 'IN' families

  by punkofnice in

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  one thing i don't miss about being a jobo, is those families that ruled the congregations.. i've seen how the elders protected their own using our old friend, nepotism.. eg.

  the son of an elder that stole a car and was prosecuted but 'let off' because it was kept secret and all his relatives were elders in the same congregation.

  it certainly went on when i was an elder but i wasn't one of the 'in' crowd.

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  There were so many big dynasty JW families related to each other, I am convinced there had to be inbreeding in the congregation I grew up in.
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  Independance day.

  by zeb in

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  happy independence day to all the american readers.

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  cheers all!.

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  Wild_Thing

  What I appreciate about this day is the idea that we (Americans) are celebrating the DECLARATION of our independence from the tyranny of an oppressive dictator, not the attaining of it. That came later.

  It's kind of like celebrating the day you sent in your disassociation letter or the day you decided to never return to the Kingdom Hall. Just because you decide to leave doesn't mean you know what freedom is.
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  Concerned Parent

  by ConcernedParent in

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  i'm writing for some advice from former jws.

  my family is christian, and my 15yo daughter is "dating" a jw boy.

  (the quotes are because they aren't old enough to actually go out on dates... they consider themselves bf/gf and have hung out and gone places with each other, but always with parents, family, etc.

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  Whatever you decide to do, you sound like a great mom! :)

  Does your family (or the boy's family) have a history of people getting married at a very young age? I ask because this is common in some/many JW families. It was common in mine. If both kids seem like normal kids, then I wouldn't worry about it and let it fizzle out on its own.

  If there is a history of marrying young, then I would go to the lumber store and start boarding up the doors now. And if they do ever become sexually active, he may put pressure on her to marry young. The fact that he is not baptized is a good thing, so he may not. Most JW kids get baptized between the ages of 14-18. I would wait and watch this kid. My bets are that he wants all out of the JW religion, but if they talk him into getting baptized, that changes things ... a lot! It's not like they are ever given a choice to stay or not, but if you're baptized, it's so much harder to leave.

  Hells bells, woman! You have a tough decision! Good luck!
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  Female JW parking "attendants"

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was shocked recently to see on social media a couple pictures of jw sisters at a convention working as parking "attendants".

  i put that title in quotation marks because they still don't get the official attendant badge like the male parking attendants do, only the reflective vest.

  has anybody else heard of this .

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  Wild_Thing

  One of my friends attended a concert out of town recently, and she was picking up her tickets just as a JW convention was letting out. She said there were JWs crawling everywhere! She said there was an old man with a badge that was posted on a corner of the street. She asked him if he knew where the Will Call office was. He said, "I don't know where anything is! They told me to stand here so I just stand here!"