Posts by Jake99

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What do you believe now?

by NowImFree in

i have been out of the jws officially for over 3 years now, since disassociating.

after researching the history of the organization and reading the bible (without) the watchtower, i am now a christian.

i am just curious what happens to most ex-jws as far as their beliefs go, after they leave the organization.

I believe that very soon someone will recognize the Messiah, for his roar is like a lion against the ways of this world. He has been calling out since early 1998 but all appear to be dead in him, and do not head his call. Its a shame that the so called believers have changed their tune from expecting a perfect man to step forward and lead them as a king, and continuine to follow a spirit of Jesus that cannot and has not ever solved a single problem. Christ is a very special man and he will work and walk among you as he did the last time. Miracles and prophecies right before your shadowed eyes.

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In "The Truth"?

by rockhound in

while at assemblies we would often see friends" in the truth", and one of the questions they would almost always ask is, are your kids still "in the truth"?

it seemed the thing to ask, with so many falling away from" the truth".

reflecting on that expression "in the truth" i think that most witneses feel as i did, that the watchtower had pretty much cornered the market on "truth" from god's word, hence the feeling that if we stayed close the the watchtower organization, we without doubt had,or were in, or were closely associated with "the truth" .

Jake99

Gretchen,

Just because you missed the hundreds of battles and competitions between Christ and Satan over the last 50 years, and the wars between the Lamb of God and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in the months before and after Y2K does not mean it did not happen just exactly as predicted.

The only thing fatalistic about the Messiah taking control, is the end of current operating systems and the mindset of its leadership. Its not a death for anyone, its a rebirth, everyone starts brand new in a perfect operating system, under perfect leadership. And I would expect you to be given proof of perfect leadership before accepting it.

Sometimes the Messiah shows up in a chariot of fire, with a bow and arrows over his shoulder, wearing a suit of armor and mops the floor with all your judges and leaders time after time after time, like it were childs play.

I will send you a copy of the outcome one of two trials that the Messiah defended at Y2K both ended in similar fashion on different charges. When you take on the master, the master wins every time on every point of view.

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In "The Truth"?

by rockhound in

while at assemblies we would often see friends" in the truth", and one of the questions they would almost always ask is, are your kids still "in the truth"?

it seemed the thing to ask, with so many falling away from" the truth".

reflecting on that expression "in the truth" i think that most witneses feel as i did, that the watchtower had pretty much cornered the market on "truth" from god's word, hence the feeling that if we stayed close the the watchtower organization, we without doubt had,or were in, or were closely associated with "the truth" .

Jake99

Gretchen,

I was just saying that the leaders this world has chosen, and systems this world uses, could not possibly please you. You were built to rebel against Satan's deciples. That is a compliment to your inner self. Sorry I dont quote your book or speak your language. I am not of this world.

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In "The Truth"?

by rockhound in

while at assemblies we would often see friends" in the truth", and one of the questions they would almost always ask is, are your kids still "in the truth"?

it seemed the thing to ask, with so many falling away from" the truth".

reflecting on that expression "in the truth" i think that most witneses feel as i did, that the watchtower had pretty much cornered the market on "truth" from god's word, hence the feeling that if we stayed close the the watchtower organization, we without doubt had,or were in, or were closely associated with "the truth" .

Jake99

Gretchen,

The messiah speaks the truth, and you should be watching for him to reveal himself near Y2K. Wake up and listen when someone different, says he is the truth, the way and the light. All of the leaders of this world are on the wrong path and obviously you have heard much from them and have turned away. What a shame that the only truth you know of is what you feel. That is because no leader has shown you what your spirit knows is right.

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Pre Armageddon Preparation.

by Clam in

are there jws who prepare for the tribulations they assume are around the corner?

when i visted the us once in 1999 i met a few guys who were expecting a global meltdown due to the millenium bug.. as a consequence they had generators, guns, ammo, tins of food, bottled water, fuel, all kinds of stuff to help them through a civil disorder situation.

does anyone know or remember any jws who have prepared like this?

Jake99

You don't need to stock pile anything, for when Christ takes charge, all things will be abundant. What you need to prepare for is change to a system that is simple and fair. What the Christians and the Jews, as well as what all others are doing, will be changed to a combination of all systems. One, system, currency, payscale, price list, equal opportunity and direct distribution where possible. Its the death of the middle man just like all companies have been doing for years. We now have the Internet and that changes everything.

The question is, will you stand behind a man who stands against your ways?

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In "The Truth"?

by rockhound in

while at assemblies we would often see friends" in the truth", and one of the questions they would almost always ask is, are your kids still "in the truth"?

it seemed the thing to ask, with so many falling away from" the truth".

reflecting on that expression "in the truth" i think that most witneses feel as i did, that the watchtower had pretty much cornered the market on "truth" from god's word, hence the feeling that if we stayed close the the watchtower organization, we without doubt had,or were in, or were closely associated with "the truth" .

Jake99

To be "in the truth" is to think and act as God does. That is how Jesus behaved and to that extreme. If you are "in the truth" you see the leaders of this world as the great deceivers and the systems as Satan's way. That said if you were "in the truth" you would be outraged at what is going on here on Earth. That is how a mad man gets nailed to a cross for saying he is the Christ.

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Who was Jesus really?

by Spectrum in

1. was he the son of god and some kind of god himself?

2. was he an extremely intelligent man that manipulated people and made himself appear to be fullfilling the prophecies about the messiah?

3. was he a dellusional nutter?

Jake99

If you suspect you are the Christ at an early age as Jesus was said to have, whether real or not, you would automatically be on track. You would have far better abilities than others and you would demonstrate and conceal them at the same time. You would have to prove it to yourself before you could say such a thing to others. I mean everyone is looking for you and you have to perform miracles and prophecies without revealing what you are doing. And then when the time comes you strike like a warrior at the heart of the anti Christ in the courtrooms as Jesus did and admit to being the messiah. That forces the action of determining if he is delusional or an imposter which verifys that in the end that he is the Christ. What better way to punch the anti christ in the legal teeth than to do what Jesus did and claim to out rank him and have plans of destroying his ways.

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Who was Jesus really?

by Spectrum in

1. was he the son of god and some kind of god himself?

2. was he an extremely intelligent man that manipulated people and made himself appear to be fullfilling the prophecies about the messiah?

3. was he a dellusional nutter?

Jake99

What I implied was that if a man just like Jesus were to be on earth, today, in the flesh, he would be considered so extreme or strange that all would turn away from him. He would end up being treated just as Jesus was after eluding to being the messiah. The judges and leaders of this world would tear him and his family to pieces trying to destroy or stop him from saying such things and standing against them.

Therefore the cleverness of performing hundreds of miracles and prophecies without people recognizing who he was would again be essential to proving that he is not a liar, lunatic or imposter. Blasphemy and big talk accompanied by a big walk and a simple plan sometimes looks like a nut case untill you open your mind to what the bible implies.

Not one sane person, other than Jesus, has ever claimed to be the Christ, Thus you automatically consider all who claim to be the Christ just plain crazy. That is why the true Messiah reveals and proves his identity by example in places where it will be recorded and witnessed by many. So that when the time comes all he has to do is get you to look at the residue he left behind that proves he is the Christ. Nobody bothered to look at what Jeus did untill he was long gone and the evidence was as well.

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Building Kingdom Halls; Destroying Lives

by freedomfu in

this church wasn't built in a day ...

it took almost a weekby rich brown.

globe staff writer1/7/06.

Jake99

How is it that I never heard the JW's also have or had a sex abuse problem? Maybe all religions are cults that should be avoided. After this world accepts the Messiah as its leader you wont need another Kingdom Hall. THE END IS NEAR

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If you were God, would you want to be worshipped?

by rebel8 in

if i was the god of the bible, i think my priorities would be to set the ground rules of life and manage the planet, ensuring life is good.

i cannot envision any reason to desire worship.

appreciation, yes.

Jake99

No I would not want to be worshipped. I would want you to use the operating system recommended in all the relgious books. No money changers or lines on the map, treat your neighbor as you would wish to be treated. Swords to plowshares etc.