Posts by hideme

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Mind control, evil and projection - the Law of Attraction

by DjSadhu in

hey everybody, i just signed up.

i'm djsadhu, ex-jg, raised jg, quit/kicked at age 16, now 30.

i have some food for thoughts that you may find interesting, i hope you will find this a refreshing point-of-view.

hideme

Even if JW's wouldn't change the world in a bad way...the only thing they're focussed on is bad things, not love. The average Talk is build up like this:

Talking about how bad this world is regarding.... (fill in the blank)

How JW should NOT be so bad

How we can prevent oureselves for becoming such bad persons.

It's 45 minutes focussing on the things we DON'T want.

Now I understand why my husband (and a lot of others in my cong.) get really depressed in KH...and they don't ever realise what's the cause!!!

So, in the minds of JW's are a lot of unwanted things. Maybe that explains why there is so much mental illness among them. And that is sad enough.

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Mind control, evil and projection - the Law of Attraction

by DjSadhu in

hey everybody, i just signed up.

i'm djsadhu, ex-jg, raised jg, quit/kicked at age 16, now 30.

i have some food for thoughts that you may find interesting, i hope you will find this a refreshing point-of-view.

Thanks for the great info on "The secret". It's really upliftng and positive. And lot of the meetings of Jdubs are all about bad things. We don't kill (attention is drawn to killing) we don't watch porn (attention is drawn to porn) we don't this, we don't that... as the documentary says: what you resist, persists. And: when you push again the unwanted, you empower it, too.

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Another JW email circulating...

by Elsewhere in

jw
friends

i received this from someone who needs to be anonymous....this one will turn your stomach.

it's supposedly from a sister in the brazil branch.

perhaps so, but the timeline of the story and age of the individual weren't clear to me as i read it.

hideme

I got an JW e-mail too...

Subject: An amazing Distric Convention experience
Tears and goosebumps. Someone not even in the truth recognizes importance of being at assembly.
Would love to be informed of the follow up. Subject: An amazing DC experience

Hello just got back from our DC we had an experience that I believe is
one of the best I,ve heard in quite a long time so here it goes.

We had approx. 5000-6000 thousand in attendance, this was in
Huntsville Alabama.
( This is most likely not word for word but it is very close)

A young sister( I believe about 11 or 12) was in the field service
with the DC tract work, she came to this door and offered the tract to
this man he took the tract looked at it and said that this really
sounds interesting and that he would like to come, he then proceeded
to ask this her, how is everyone able to take Friday off from work?
She responded by telling him that everyone asks their employer for
that day off, he responds to her and says, what if the employer
doesn't allow for the Friday off, she responds, then they just quit
there jobs and go anyway, (everyone chuckled at this point) so the
householder says, OK, I'll ask my employer for the day off and if he
says no then I'll just quit, because I really want to go and hear what
is to be said. When the household goes back to work and proceeds to
ask for that Friday off he also tells his employer that if thats not
going to work then he was just going to quit( imagine the thought of
the employer) well his employer tells him ,just wait a minute that
can't happen you are too good of an employee to just quit, so I am
going to do you one better, I am going to give not only Friday off but
also Thursday so you can make all the needed preparations necessary to
attend all 3 days. He was there all 3 days. WOW (everyone clapped
very loud and long time) Now the speaker says brothers it gets even
better,so everyone stopped clapping to hear the conclusion of this
experience. Well the sister went back to the householder to make
arraingements to save him a seat and meet up with him at our
convention , he asked her if it would be allright if he invited a few
of his friends and relatives, the sister of course said yes and asked
how many so she could have enough seats

WELL HOLD ON TO YOUR SEAT

ALL 3 DAYS WOW isn't that wonderful, this little sister says oh my
I CAN"T SAVE THAT MANY! He says I know, but thats just fine we will
find our own. So all 30 of them made hotel reservations and was able
to come all 3 days. Well you think the clapping was loud and long
before, well honey it rocked the house when the speaker ended this by
saying to all, WOULD WE LIKE TO SHOW OUR FEELINGS FOR ALL 30 OF THESE
ONES BEING HERE WITH US.

Can you just imagine the congregation this sister goes to , the
follow up will deffinitely be interesting.

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Scales falling from my eyes. (very long!)

by PoppyR in

hi everyone, totally new here.

and still associating with jws... have been baptised 23 years, that was at the tender age of 13 when i had absolutely no idea what i was doing.

i have always been considered a rebel...brought up in a family by a single parent, my two brothers are both elders, the younger being a regular pioneer, my sister a regular pioneer and serving in a foreign language congregation.

hideme

Hi Poppy,

Since I'm not really new here anymore, I feel I can say: welcome. I Hope you find some answers here. You'll find friends and fun, that's sure. :)

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Correlation between personality types and religio-spiritual leanings?

by daystar in

someone in a completely different segment of associates from you old ex-jws here posed this wish:.

i've often wished someone would do a study to see if there is a real correlation between personality type and religious/spiritual leanings.

i've long noticed that in fantasy subcultures and "new" religions, as well as those that attract many adult converts (and have trouble retaining people born into the faith), the same types keep showing up.

hideme

I wondered, too. Or even more, I wonder if religious feelings are something that is a physical thing in the brain. Why?

I know that in Homoeopathy some medications help "against" religious feelings. (I know personally. A family member of me was totally crazy pioneering. He went to his Homeopathic doctor, and after taking this meds. the religious feeling was totally GONE. No guilt, no fear, nothing. Quit pioneering. Quit Truth.) (for example Lilium Tigrinum) http://www.abchomeopathy.com/r.php/Lil-t (When you search in this www.abchomeopathy.com, you can look for the word "religious" and find medications that are against religious feelings.)

That makes me wonder if religion/faith is some physical difference/disease in the brains. That would explain to me how some people have NO religious feelings at all, and others are so strong religious.

So I do think that it is a certain type of person that is attracted to JWs. It's the kind of person that already is damaged in the past.The person that needs love and think he will get it there. The person that has been under pression in his youth, and thinks it is NORMAL to live under pression - that's why he feels safe with JW's.

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WERE THERE ANY `YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS,MAN' moments in KH

by badboy in

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friends

did something say something like that po who said`cats represent the beast' so you shouldn't stroke them'

hideme

A few weeks ago the brother who gave the talk talked about 5 minutes about Pippi Longstocking ...how she was the real force behind everything bad these days. She promoted freedom and independency, she did things a different way...she didn't listen to her parents or to the teacher.

I was stunned, and so were my kids. We LOVE Pippi Longstocking, and here the truth was revealed...she's the DEVIL's right hand!!

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Try to make it to your meetings!

by moomanchu in

jw
friends

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keep trying to get to your meetings remember the sister who walked 2 hours one way to feast at the spiritual banquet , or the bro who crossed crocodile infested waters to get to his meeting.. anyone remember any other guilt trip inducing illustrations?

hideme

Uhh...

Of the 19 publishers, 12 have to cross a wide river to attend the meetings each week.

always made me wonder: Why did the twelve have to cross that river anyway? Wy not have a 12-person meeting on their own side of the river? Who made them cross that river??? Brooklyn did!! Why is a meeting in a kingdom hall so important that you have to endanger your life?? Why not just meet? I don't understand.

I also remember the tsunami experience: Everyone that was doing fieldservice that morning (even tourists) were saved. No more "time and unforeseen occurrence befall them all" then!! It's all Jehovah's hand.

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Overheard in a public library

by under_believer in

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friends

when i was a kid, my parents (strong in the truth: father elder, mother regular pioneer) encouraged me to read.

in reality, they could hardly have held me back; i come from a long line of bookworms, including my father.

books were like water.

hideme

Hi, Leolaia,

I can imagine. When I was 8 years old I read the bound volumes of watchtower and awake - for fun. (Though the Malawi stories were not much fun, and too scary for a child of course.) My brother read the insight book in english while still a child, because in Dutch they had not been published yet. My biggest gift when I was baptised was the Study-bible, and I was HAPPY with it.

Some children are really weird LOL.

I was, like the person who started this thread, a book worm too. Every week, ten books! And when we had holidays, we went to library with my brothers and sisters, so together we had 40 or more books to read during vacation... those were the days...

Now my children are reading a lot of books too. But I make sure: No bound volumes or Insight books...

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Movie: The Truman Show = Jehovahs Witnesses? Anyone seen this movie?

by Trojan in

by now, i realize there are a couple of good movies that help to understand the situation a jw finds himself in, once he finds out the truth about "the truth".

like: the village, the island, stepford wifes.

i find that these movies help me to understand the situation of being trapped in a cult and the mixed emotions about finding out and the courage and strenght needed to leave.

hideme

Yes... I love that movie! Now I understand why. :-) I saw Stepford wives, too. I liked it, but it was not the best movie ever for me. But it's a good example, indeed of JW's world.

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WAS THIS A NO-NO FOR YOUR CONG. SHEPHERDING VISITS?

by juni in

i don't know where the elders learned this one.

maybe it was local - i don't know.

but.... these were shepherding calls to build you up spiritually so therefore no serving of coffee or cookies were allowed.. was this true with your congregation's shepherding visits?.

hideme

It wasn't exactly a rule, but I felt the same thing - not social but spiritual.

Our elders did the shepherding talk first, after that was finished, they accepted a cup of coffee...