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  JW Lawyer in Norway uses "theocratic warfare" to conceal the org's controlling language!

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  in the org's vocabulary, the term "independent thinking" is applied pejoratively to any jw who thinks & reasons for themselves.

  the org's lawyer knew exactly what he was doing in court when he voiced his carefully prepared words:.

  "watchtowers lawyer anders ryssdal compares jehovah’s witnesses’ baptism to the norwegian state church’s confirmation of 15-year-olds, arguing that their baptism is no different.

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  "their baptism is no different"—right! Doubtless, they too recognize that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses in Warwick, NY is God's sole spokesman on earth.
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  Announcement of Elijah's Coming

  by ElijahisMe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is with profound humility and reverence that i share a message of great significance.

  in the year 2001, my son and i witnessed the birth of the kingdom of god, experiencing spiritual battles that affirm our divine calling.

  as prophesied in the scriptures, my son is the elijah to come, the forerunner to jesus' second coming.. living in the wilderness by his own choosing, my son embodies the spirit and mission of elijah, preparing the way for the lord.

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  How long have you been psychotic?
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  I want a marriage mate that’s a brother

  by Lace83 in

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  2. relationships

  hi, my name is leacy and i am 41 years old.

  i live in california.

  i attend the rancho santa margarita congregation.

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  Lace83, your chances of finding what you are looking for here are about equal to the chances of the Governing Body posting the detailed minutes of the last 10 years of their meetings on this website.

  However, with the posting of your picture here, along with the name of what congregation you attend in Rancho Santa Margarita, California, you stand a very good chance of getting a visit from your local body of elders! Good luck with that!

  
  
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  When JW's say they are 'In the truth'...

  by Ron.W. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  where did this phrase 'in the truth' come from?.

  it's been around as long as i can remember.

  is it from the time they were promoting 'the truth shall make you free' book back in 1943?

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  The term likely goes back to Russell and the 19th-century grass-roots Protestantism that he moved around in theologically, plenty of those Adventist types, dispensationalists, and other fundamentalists who were all caught up in the fulfillment of biblical prophecy. They liked the term "present truth," which is defined as "those scriptures of particular relevance to the present dispensation," (J. Gordon Melton, A Dictionary of Religious Bodies in the United States, 1977, p. 249).

  From that, most likely under Freddie Franz's direction, it morphed simply into "the truth," connoting whatever doctrine he put forth, gobbled up so eagerly by the ever "faithful" rank and file with their obsession on "unity at all costs."

  Presto: "the truth!" Those books you cite, Ron.W., just reflect this history.
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  Two-by-Two's (JW-like religion) leader arrested for CSA

  by buzkid in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a secretive christian church that is extremely similar in beliefs to jw religion, and has a surprising global reach is at the center of an fbi investigation for csa.

  the religious group goes by multiple names, such as "the truth" and "two-by-twos.

  "as child sex abuse allegations aimed at the church continue to come to light, we are learning more about the organization.

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  I'd read about this group a few months back when they were under suspicion. There are certain similarities but they have been under the radar far more than than the WTS due to being so small, clannish, and 'informal'. The WT organization because of the preaching work, public assemblies, fighting in the courts, etc. are more in the public eye.
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  jwfacts is gone?

  by Rnadomchris83 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was not sure on where to put this, so please move if need be.. i was just on there last night.

  you are now redirected to a godaddy site stating that it has been taken.. did i miss something?.

  thanks!.

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  Back for me too!
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  jwfacts is gone?

  by Rnadomchris83 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was not sure on where to put this, so please move if need be.. i was just on there last night.

  you are now redirected to a godaddy site stating that it has been taken.. did i miss something?.

  thanks!.

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  Here's what I got. Want to pay $120?

  
  
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  Child abuse calculations

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  there are no real numbers for jws but they are a relatively small group.

  compared to the number of catholics at least.. the australian commission gathered more than 5000 cases with over 1000 perpetrators that went completely unreported for the jws.

  likewise they did the same for catholics and collected just under 4800 cases with 1880 perpetrators.

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  The attorneys representing the church — Brad Patershall of Portland and Joel Taylor of Brewster, New York — did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
  

  Yes, they have not yet been told what to parrot from the GB and the legal department.
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  Any information about the special worldwide meeting update and a GB member visit in South Africa?

  by iloowy.goowy in

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  2. experiences

  does any one have any information about the special worldwide meeting update and a gb member visit in south africa yesterday?.

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  So is the GB visit due to riding high on the number increases in certain African countries? That would seem to fit well with traditional WTS thinking. It would also deflect thinking away from the internal problems the org has.
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  Clergy Accountability Report Child Secual Abuse

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there a group is fighting in the legal area to make clergy accountable to report child sexual abuse cases https://www.morningstar.com/news/pr-newswire/20250127ph04780/clergy-accountability-coalition-urges-support-as-legislature-renews-battle-over-clergy-reporting-bill-sb-5375-amid-fierce-catholic-pushback "if passed, sb 5375 would align washington with six other states—new hampshire, north carolina, oklahoma, rhode island, texas, and west virginia—that mandate clergy to report knowledge of child abuse, including information disclosed during private religious rites like confession.

  washington is one of only five states where clergy are not required to report child abuse under any circumstances.

  " for the past three years, the catholic church and catholic state lawmakers have fiercely opposed similar legislation, even as the church remains under investigation by the attorney general's office for clergy abuse and institutional concealment.

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  The whole legal issue still boils down, at least in America, to whether the desire to report CSA trumps the clergy-penitent privilege. While various R&F groups and certain politicians want change in this respect, the fact is that the current US Supreme Court, as well now as the current executive branch, will continue to support the old view that the clergy-penitent privilege, well-ensconced in American jurisprudence, should win out. All branches of the American federal government now are controlled by conservatives who love tradition and hate change in things like this. When you add the clergy pressure from conservative Protestantism (in bed with Trump), the RC church with its emphasis on the sacredness of confession, and Orthodox Jewish rabbis, a legal change in the clergy-penitent privilege vs. mandatory reporting does not look likely.

  Legal change outside of the US seems far more plausible.