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How would you feel if this happened to you?

by Island Man in

imagine you're a mentally out, physically in, awake jw who still attend meetings and occasionally do a little door-to-door perfunctory service just to please the still-in spouse and keep the elders off your back while you slowly and subtly try to free your spouse of the cult.

you're also a vociferous online critic of the jw organization and its harmful policies and false teachings.

one day while out doing your occasional perfunctory door-to-door service with a still-in jw, you knock on a door and the householder comes out and says:.

careful

Scenario number one: That would be "surreal" indeed! I'd probably have a good laugh, wink at the householder, and go on to the next door. You know, "wait on Jehovah"!

Scenario number two: This one would be harder. I know a bro. from one of my old congos who has been DFed for taking a blood transfusion. I've wondered what I would do if I ran into him. I think I'd probably talk with him, perhaps in some out of the way place in order to protect us both, in case he would ever want to try and get back in. I understand his wife left him over his disagreeing with the org, so he may still want to try and save his marriage by going back. I'd not like to be DFed myself since that would put that shunning stress on those I still associate with. But I'd probably talk about the issue with him.

This is a good post!

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Who is the oldest GB member?

by StarTrekAngel in

during the talk delivered by stephen lett in our last assembly, he talked about brothers who serve despite their frail health.

he said "one of the gb members, whom i work with every day, is 80 years old and has been a diabetic for the last 30".. give a peak into how well they are tended to and how someone that age would not dare to let go of the power that keeps him alive..

careful

Does it strike anyone as inconsistent that traveling overseers have to step down from their positions when they're 70, yet the GB members don't have to? That elderly unhealthy ones at the Bethels are being sent back to the congos, evidently to save money on health expenses, but it's okay to pay the bills for the old GB members and their "helpers" who are over 70?

Isn't here something in the Bible about leading by example, not being hypocritical, and treating others like you would want them to treat you?

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Watchtower Farms

by Lostandfound in

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with the ending of large scale catering at all bethels what has happened to the farms?.

i may have missed this but cannot find any reference to them.

or are they producing delicacies for the private kitchens serving the elite?.

careful

respectful observer, nice question!

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cleaning at bethel

by pepperheart in

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has any body else heard this that they are asking members of different congs in new york to go and clean at bethel for free,if this is true then it really shows that the borg is short of money and might even be crumbling before our eyes

careful

OK, so what other country?

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Court denies summary judgement for Laurel Jehovah's Witnesses congregation

by OrphanCrow in

court denies summary judgement for laurel jehovah's witnesses congregation.

a motion for summary judgement is denied in a case against the laurel congregation of jehovah's witnesses and some individuals over child abuse reporting issues.a lawyer for the congregation maintained that elders were exempted from reporting requirements under a state law because of clergy privilege and confidentiality.the case resulted from allegations that elders did not report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were members of the jehovah's witnesses congregation.. download the court opinion here.

http://courts.delaware.gov/opinions/download.aspx?id=235880.

careful

OCrow, thanks for the thread and info.

TGND, thanks for the news link.

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John Denham Parsons

by opusdei1972 in

"the non-christian cross" by john denham parsons, is a work that is still used by the watchtower society as a "proof" that the greek word stauros does not mean cross.

here a portion of this work:.

now the greek word which in latin versions of the new testament is translated as crux, and in english versions is rendered as cross, i.e., the word stauros, seems to have, at the beginning of our era, no more meant a cross than the english word stick means a crutch.

careful

Fred Franz and those who have followed him have long gobbled up eccentric views held by pseudo-scholars like Parsons, W. E. Vine, E. Bullinger, and others who have never delved into the matter of the Greek meaning of stauros. If you're interested in pursuing the issue look at Leolaia's posts at this forum on the subject. They are likely the best ever written anywhere on it.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/92381/facts-on-crucifixion-stauros-torture-stake?page=1&size=10

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/97358/cross-stake-which?size=10&page=2

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Did you go to your ASSIGNED congregation?

by Zoos in

the rule was (is) that you go to your assigned congregation.. growing up, i think our family was in our assigned congregation only one of three times.

the family made two major moves when i was a kid and each time my folks would visit the various congregations in the area and pick the one with the most kids.

given our association restrictions with the world, they wanted to make sure we had plenty of friends.. i have to give them credit where due.

careful

OK, I can't pass this one up. Is this for real?

ttdtt stated that among the lack of freedoms JWs "enjoy" is this one:

if you can get a boob job or not

Does anyone know of such a thing really happening???

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The Guardian asks the question: "Are people ever converted by street or doorstep evangelists?" Do you want to answer?

by AndersonsInfo in

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http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/jan/27/are-people-ever-converted-by-street-or-doorstep-evangelists.

has anyone ever actually been converted to a different religion by people who knock on the door, hand out leaflets or proselytise in public places?.

kate percival, london e15.

careful

I studied with about 10-12 people, maybe more, who were found in the d2d ministry and who got baptized. A few left but most are still in. I would say that on average in the congos I was in, about half the Witnesses were converts and half born-ins. By far most of the converts were from the d2d work.

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