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  Who was the poster who predicted radical Watchtower change years ago?

  by slimboyfat in

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  who was the poster, about 8 years ago, who came on the forum and claimed he had inside information that the gb were planning radical changes.

  he said that in ten years time jws would be unrecognisable.

  many were skeptical.

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  Are you thinking of Juan Viejo2?
  
  It wasn't so long ago, certainly not 8, just 2 years. Has it been 8 years since the book study got the axe? Maybe I'm just getting too old and suffering from time warp-age, or whatever it's called, but it doesn't seem like it been that long.
  
  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/277270/will-firing-dos-first-step-new-watchtower
  
  BTW, I know I owe you a reply. I will get to it soon.
  
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  Video about boy to not play violin?

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. bible

  it looks to me as though they are saying don't play at a higher level because your then in competition?

  so if i'm correct what if any bible scriptures can be used to back up this anti competitive idea and are there other scriptures showing the opposite?.

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  I knew brothers who had formal music education beyond the high school level, one who is surely still in, so I suspect it is indeed as the above two posters take it: worldly association is the threat.
  
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  Loyalty? Today's WT The RC. It's a fix!

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  today's wt has the below scripture as it's theme.

  friday of the rc has the same as it's theme.

  the silver nwt is alone in using the word loyalty in this verse.

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  Slidin Fast, thanks for the post. It is good to get input on changes in the rev. NWT. Some have been good, some, bad.

  It is also good to have an informed background on the matter. As jwfacts brings out, it is not as simple as just bashing the WT again. Why would those translators he mentions also have the rendering "loyalty" (ERV, MSG) and "faithfulness" (HCSB,NET) if this were some WT oddity? He could have added the reading I find in my NASB: while they render the Heb. word as "kindness" in the main text, they offer "loyalty" in the margin.

  Thus it looks, Slidin Fast, like your check of 37 translations was incomplete. Obviously something bigger than the WTS is going on here. For a informed background on the matter, one needs to read the entry on the Heb. word involved, hesed, in vol. 1 of the Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament (or TWOT, 1980), written by one of its main editors, R. Laird Harris. He explains that the famous Heb. scholar Nelson Glueck (pronounced as "glick") wrote his dissertation (1927), later turned into an English book (1967), on this word. Harris describes Glueck's work as "a watershed in the discussion." Glueck argued for a "loyalty" meaning based on covenant obligations. Some scholars have later accepted or rejected his argumentation. Even one of his detractors, Kathryn Sakenfeld, believes that "prophetic usage includes faithfulness" (p. 305). This then explains why some would include this translation in the one of the prophets, Micah.
  

  I am not defending the rev. NWT. There are plenty of faults in it. But a simplistic bashing of the WT again here is uninformed. A person wanting the facts should read Harris's article. It's only about 5 columns on 3 pages. BTW, for those using Strong's numbering system, his 2617 = 698 in the TWOT.
  

  I hope this is helpful for those who really want to know the facts...
  
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  Are JWs now encouraged to volunteer?

  by Athanasius in

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  2. experiences

  after i retired i volunteered for several community service programs, including working with the local food bank.

  every fourth thursday of each month i help out in distributing food to needy families at the local veterans building.

  i've been helping out for five years now.

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  I knew a pioneer couple who volunteered at a local food co-op. I belonged too and they did not use their time there to witness. Rather they just did work there handling food, filling bins, etc.
  
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  Circuit Overseer Coming For Lunch – Everything Has to be Perfect

  by SAHS in

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  2. friends

  we have the circuit overseer’s visit this week, and my folks are having him and his wife over for lunch today.

  of course, i’m making it a point of hightailing it out of there to have my lunch elsewhere.

  when my mom asks me “why don’t you stay and meet him,” i just say, “well, he’s just a man like everybody else.” she says, “well, of course.

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  SAHs, funny!
  
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  One Person Baptized at Circuit Assembly

  by Simon Templar in

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  i went to the circuit assembly with my wife yesterday.

  i have to keep peace in the family.

  there were less than 1,000 people for both the morning and the afternoon sessions.

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  Are they now running out of children? Maybe they'll start baptizing infants?
  
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  Did Freddy Franz receive secret instructions from a Jewish aquaintance?

  by truthseeker in

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  i recently met a sister who told me she heard of a story that the late president of the watchtower society, mr. freddy franz, received secret instructions on how to direct the organization from a jewish acquaintance.. is this a conspiracy theory or could there be some truth to it?.

  truthseeker.

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  Barb Anderson wrote once of a Jewish Witness who knew Hebrew, and the bros. in the Writing Department respected him. He even chastised them for one of their gaffs in a WT article that came out after Freddie died. You might want to ask her about this Jewish Witness. I remember too that she said he was inactive!
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  Circuit Overseer Coming For Lunch – Everything Has to be Perfect

  by SAHS in

  1. jw
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  we have the circuit overseer’s visit this week, and my folks are having him and his wife over for lunch today.

  of course, i’m making it a point of hightailing it out of there to have my lunch elsewhere.

  when my mom asks me “why don’t you stay and meet him,” i just say, “well, he’s just a man like everybody else.” she says, “well, of course.

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  Would your mom's name be "Martha" perhaps?

  Luke 10:38-42
  
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  How Corrupt Is WT?

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how corrupt do you think they are?

  if so, in what ways?

  i've been compiling my own list and thoughts.

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  They learn to think that the preservation of the organization is way more important than anything else, things like kindness and full disclosure of information. This thinking allows them to manipulate, coerce, and even directly lie.

  Thank you, OTWO.

  
  
  
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  New K.Hall Design, Mansfield

  by BluesBrother in

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  2. friends

  not mansfield u k , but mansfield in u s a - it doesn't look much, does it?

  in fact even the uber dubs on j w talk are not impressed (that must be a first!

  this thread of theirs is publicly readable:.

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  Thanks for the info and for the link: indeed those in-house comments are revealing!