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Germany- 321 Congregations Dissolved/Merged...

by Newly Enlightened in

the german government requires watchtower to publish their own demise.

any changes to congregations has to be published on their website.. https://www.jehovaszeugen.de/amtsblatt.44.0.html .

since 2006 321 congregations have been dissolved and merged into others.

careful

Thx for the info. It would be interesting to see similar stats from other countries that in the past were "success stories" but have had similar downturns like Mexico and Japan.

But Corney, what was the status of those newly created congs? Were they examples of a "new" cong C formed from the now defunct congs A and B? Or maybe a cong D formed from old congs A, B, and C? Could they be at least partly because of immigration, a huge issue in Germany? How can one know such details? New names could reflect the changing realities of territorial adjustments or just a broader geographical name that encompasses more area. Who knows?

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Any word yet on the Annual Meeting?

by careful in

it's just a week or two away and still no sign of the usual hype?

very strange.... anyone heard anything about it?

perhaps from those still in to some degree or from relatives/friends still in?.

careful

It's just a week or two away and still no sign of the usual hype? Very strange...

Anyone heard anything about it? Perhaps from those still in to some degree or from relatives/friends still in?

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Wake up America!

by zeb in

jw
friends

https://www.revealnews.org/topic/jehovahs-witnesses/.

careful

I appreciate the post but is there anything new here? The entries are all months and even years old...

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EU Court Ruling Against WT on Data-Protection

by cofty in

today's london times reports on the july ruling of the eu court that forces the organisation country to comply with data protection.. the action originated in finland but the ruling will affect every eu country.

the cult tried unsuccessfully to argue that the notes taken by jws in the door-to-door work were personal and not accessed by the congregation.

the court ruled that they are acting under the auspices of the congregation and therefore they must comply with data-protection laws.. keeping lists of do-not-calls also falls under this ruling.. why does the cult always feel that it is above the law?.

careful

Does anyone know—since one has to pay to see the entire London Times article—why they published this story yesterday when it is old news that dates to July?

See Reuters coverage back then here:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu-data-jehovahwitnesses/eu-court-says-jehovahs-witnesses-must-comply-with-data-privacy-laws-in-door-to-door-preaching-idUSKBN1K01LJ

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WT Recruiting JW Solicitors (Lawyers)

by AverageJoe1 in

we all know how much the watchtower abhors "higher education" and that apparently jehovah thinks it is a big waste of time.

at least that is their official stance.

it might come as a shock to you that this month they have started a campaign drive to actually recruit jws who have higher education, specifically those who have legal training.. with all the law suits against them for creating an environment that is friendly to paedophiles, it is thus no wonder that they are in need of solicitors, especially those who are sympathetic towards the cult.. talk about hypocrisy!.

careful

Key requirement:

"They must be able to work as a team, follow direction..."

No thinking for themselves and questioning the policies that got the org into hot water on the child abuse issue to begin with.

Vidiot, I don't think they use "worldly" lawyers much.

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Star Tribune: Jehovah's Witnesses accused of mishandling abuse in Montana

by Tahoe in

http://www.startribune.com/jehovah-s-witnesses-accused-of-mishandling-abuse-in-montana/493779331/.

helena, mont.

— two women who say they were sexually abused as children have alleged that the jehovah's witnesses failed to report their abuser to authorities in montana and instead punished him internally by expelling him from the congregation until he repented the following year.. a trial begins monday in the tiny city of thompson falls for one of dozens of lawsuits filed nationwide in the last decade over claims of child sexual abuse in jehovah's witness congregations.

careful

For Lost in the fog, here's the ref. in RF's CofC. As I said, it is in passing and without naming the group. See note 13. This screen shot is from p. 281 of the 4th ed. of his book.

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Star Tribune: Jehovah's Witnesses accused of mishandling abuse in Montana

by Tahoe in

http://www.startribune.com/jehovah-s-witnesses-accused-of-mishandling-abuse-in-montana/493779331/.

helena, mont.

— two women who say they were sexually abused as children have alleged that the jehovah's witnesses failed to report their abuser to authorities in montana and instead punished him internally by expelling him from the congregation until he repented the following year.. a trial begins monday in the tiny city of thompson falls for one of dozens of lawsuits filed nationwide in the last decade over claims of child sexual abuse in jehovah's witness congregations.

careful

Lost in the fog,

The head of the legal dept. at Patterson, Philip Brumley, was sent to law school by the org. Yep, they paid his way and it was his official assignment. He talks about how "dangerous" it was for him while he was there in an official JWdotorg video. Plenty of other WT lawyers converted after they'd passed the bar. In the USA it's a large enough group that they used to have their own independent conventions where, among other things, sisters could get up and give real stand-alone talks. That group, called Theocratic Attorneys and Doctors (TA&D), was shut down by GB I.

RF mentions the group in passing in his CofC book. Hal Flemings used to be the one who organized their annual conventions. They even had their own journal and meeting programs. If you go to the website of this Witness lawyer, Steve Popko, you'll see in the lower right under "Awards & Rankings" that he was once the editor of the TA&D journal.

https://hannabrophy.com/team/steven-m-popko/

Hope this helps.

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Star Tribune: Jehovah's Witnesses accused of mishandling abuse in Montana

by Tahoe in

http://www.startribune.com/jehovah-s-witnesses-accused-of-mishandling-abuse-in-montana/493779331/.

helena, mont.

— two women who say they were sexually abused as children have alleged that the jehovah's witnesses failed to report their abuser to authorities in montana and instead punished him internally by expelling him from the congregation until he repented the following year.. a trial begins monday in the tiny city of thompson falls for one of dozens of lawsuits filed nationwide in the last decade over claims of child sexual abuse in jehovah's witness congregations.

careful

Tahoe, thanks for the post, and Corney, for the earlier history.

One interesting thing here is "Jehovah's Witness attorney Kathleen DeSoto." So the GB has okayed the use of a female Witness attorney here. I've heard of Carolyn Wah doing stuff for them in their Legal Department, but this use of DeSoto, a woman officially representing them in court, seems pretty rare. I cannot help but wonder the motives here. Is it just that there are not many Witness lawyers who are licensed and practice in Montana so they are "stuck" with her? Or maybe the GB think that by using a female lawyer, this will help their case?

It's also of interest that the opposition counsel Storey has noted the change in procedure by the GB/org. The org likes to hide this fact because their old policies make them look bad.

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Anyone notice there has not been any announcement for the annual meeting broadcast this year?

by nowwhat? in

let the speculation begin!.

careful

Here are some thoughts:

https://rmovideo.blogspot.com/2018/08/jw-annual-meeting-2018-new-updates-speculations-provisions.html

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Anyone notice there has not been any announcement for the annual meeting broadcast this year?

by nowwhat? in

let the speculation begin!.

careful

Maybe eye...dub is right about leaks, but surely SOMEONE here must be able to get some info from still-in family members and share it.