apologies if this topic has been discussed earlier.. i was thinking of whether demanding for a ban on shunning policy would be beneficial for the larger society.
following are some things that we need to remember while advocating the issue:.
1. shunning is not limited to jw's and for many americans, it is not that controversial as it seems.. 2. jw shunning is not a dark secret policy.
Drearyweather:
"The OD book is given before you are announced as an unbaptized publisher. Once you speak to the elders that you want to become an Unbaptized publisher, they discuss this with you and if you are qualified, they hand over the book to you. You then need to go to FS for a month, submit your report and you are announced as a publisher."
Wow, I didn't know that this procedure had gotten so formal. There was none of this announcing a new publisher when I was in—how things have changed.
https://tv.jw.org/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/pub-ism_2_video.
interesting video explaining how to end a bible study.. watch the kind of uber behaviour of the witnesses: make a choice or we leave.... so hard, so not christian.
no love for the person.. g..
Does anybody else find the black-profile-only characters in this vid strange? To me it looks ... creepy ... and cheap.
philly is geting a new attorney general.
so far she's on the right path!.
new attorneys general to continue investigating clergy abuse.
The investigation idea is spreading:
"At least 14 attorneys general around the country have confirmed investigations or reviews of clergy abuse in the wake of a shocking Pennsylvania grand jury report in August detailing seven decades of child sexual abuse by more than 300 predator priests."
Thanks for the post.
so much for jehovah blessing this new arrangement.
they are barely keeping up with the birthrate!
so basically the org spent millions of dollars on their website and broadcasting so the only growth they are still getting comes from born ins and illiterate and superstitious folks from africa.
Please don't get offended, but you are assuming the goal of the cart project is to convert newbies. Some have commented on other posts here that his may not be the case, but the whole cart undertaking is mainly to help pioneers and elders get easy field service time in. If any converts come about from it, that is an unintended side product.
Another view is that they have changed their whole perspective on making disciples, at least in Western lands, wanting now to look somehow—in their eyes—more mainstream.
These ideas are something to think about.
That their numbers of real converts are basically down is undeniable.
there are two legal offices listed on the jw.org website.. united stateswatchtower bible and tract society of new york, inc.office of the general counsel100 watchtower drivepatterson ny 12563-9204united states+1 [email protected].
world headquartersjehovah’s witnesses, office of the general counsel1 kings drivetuxedo park ny 10987-5500united states+1 [email protected].
to which location does one report child abusers and their enablers?
eye...dub, "overlapping legal offices"—love it!
if true what a waste of dedicated funds that could have been used to build 1000's of k.h's in africa.
nowwhat?, thx for the OP, and PE, thx for the link to the WT article. Yes, there must be a widespread, serious undercurrent of dissatisfaction among old loyal ones in the org now. And more layoffs and more dissatisfaction in the works? The GB and their "secure" underlings have got more than financial and legal problems piling up.
some results of the royal commission in australia.
catholic church ellis defence scrapped in 'momentous day' for abuse survivorsby michelle brownposted about 2 hours ago john ellis speaks to the media outside the nsw supreme court.photo: john ellis, a former lawyer, tried to sue the catholic church for negligence (aap: paul miller)related story: nsw child abuse survivors to be allowed to sue churchesafter an 11-year battle, survivors of institutional child abuse locked out of suing for compensation will be able to launch civil claims from today.key points:the ellis defence prevented abuse survivors from suing unincorporated organisations including churches and other institutionsthe move to scrap it came after recommendations from the royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.from today, an institution must nominate a defendant with sufficient assets to pay a survivor's claim.the so-called "ellis defence", which prevented abuse survivors from suing unincorporated organisations including churches and other institutions, is today abolished after the nsw government removed a legal road block.the move came after recommendations from the royal commission into institutional child sex abuse.john ellis, whose failed court of appeal case against the catholic church in 2007 gave rise to the defence, has praised the government's action.
"it's fantastic news," he told the abc.
Thanks for the post. Yet another pressure on the "elite eight" in Warwick.
does anyone have a photo of the current faithful slave...or a doctored pic that includes ken cook jr. replacing brother pierce?.
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THE BEST ONE & MOST CURRENT:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4804658288656384/muppets-charge-org
confusing standards or hodge podge?.
what is this about beards i never got the hang of from day one?
are beards ok or not?.
OPP:
"Facial hair breaks the spell that keeps JWs as subserviently immature drones suppressed through hierarchical domination." — Love it!
And forget about the fact that in antiquity beardless males were either Egyptian priests like the evil Jannes and Jambes, or Romans who killed Jesus, destroyed the Jerusalem Temple, and likely killed the apostles Paul and Peter, and then went on tho persecute the early Christian movement.
the trial transcript of nunez v. watchtower (426 pages) has been made available from scaars which is the acronym for a new a 501(c)(4) lobbying corporation, sexual child abuse - advocates for reform and safety (scaars).. .
the scaars corporation was formed october 3, 2018 by barbara anderson and former elder, roger bentley and his wife, karin.
on the home page of the scaars website, scaars.org, you will find information that explains the goal of the movement - scaars: "changing laws - changing lives.".
Thanks for the post. It's a lot to read, and I certainly did not read it all, but the part I did near the end is powerful: WT lawyer and Witness Joel Taylor apologizing and admitting wrong (p. 121, 3rd set of docs). But the opposing lawyer's words ring so true:
"There hasn't been a word of apology until this jury spoke. They haven't heard the message and that's what punitive damages are for. And these (indicating [the monetary sum]) are the numbers that will send that message to them." (p. 123)
Spot on! The GB are so dumb. They have to get clunked on the head by "Satan's world"! How long can they can continue to keep this from the R&F? Their secrecy bubble is being popped. If they're having trouble making ends meet now, imagine how much their donations will dry up when the average Witness finds out about this stuff.
