What is of interest here is that some branch of the org has decided to take this to court at all, That means the GB are testing the waters regarding the GDPR.
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Legal fight over door-to-door notes continues: case goes to Strasbourg
by Corney inon 10 june 2019, the finnish jw organization lodged an application against finland with the european court of human rights.
the case was quickly - by the court's standards - communicated to the finnish government on 10 december 2019. the complaint itself isn't available online but there is a brief summary (see the link above) prepared by the court:.
the application concerns the jehovah’s witnesses’ religious activities in finland and their compatibility with the data protection regulations.
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Current JW growth in the United States in historical perspective and in comparison with other groups
by slimboyfat incurrent jw growth is slower than during most of their history.
the only probable exceptions are following 1975 when there was a brief worldwide decrease, the late 1920s when around half of the members left the movement, perhaps around the 1917 schism, and various schisms during russell’s time.
there were also periods of sluggish growth during the 1950/60s and around 2000. .
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Do the LDS publish the number of congregations? As you have long preached, SBF, those numbers tell the real story.
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Current JW growth in the United States in historical perspective and in comparison with other groups
by slimboyfat incurrent jw growth is slower than during most of their history.
the only probable exceptions are following 1975 when there was a brief worldwide decrease, the late 1920s when around half of the members left the movement, perhaps around the 1917 schism, and various schisms during russell’s time.
there were also periods of sluggish growth during the 1950/60s and around 2000. .
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What about the Mormons and Catholics?
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Has Anything Really Changed For JWs In The Last 10 Years?
by minimus in2020 is days away.
has anything really changed for the witnesses or the religion?
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"They are now at a new low of brain-dead."
Thank you, PON!
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2019--December--4--Leaked--Videos!
by Atlantis incongregation expenses types and approvals.
issuing donation acknowledgment letters.
monthly congregation accounts reports--s-30.
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Thanks again, Petra! I haven't watched these yet but could they be a source of info for their real financial state/income, a least a portion of it?
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2019--S--44--Form!
by Atlantis in2019 s-44 form.
monthly kingdom hall operating committee accounts report.
https://docdro.id/pamkvfm.
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Thanks, Petra!
Dr. Who—good observation. Maybe this is one of those MS jobs given to soon-elder-to-be's, like speaker coordinator could/used to be (still is?).
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Has Anything Really Changed For JWs In The Last 10 Years?
by minimus in2020 is days away.
has anything really changed for the witnesses or the religion?
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SBF: "What else did I miss?"
Financial woes due to one thing you touched on, the "Print publishing downscaled" but with the detail that previously it had become free to all (= the loss of long, well-established income from printed matter sales), because of the org's fear of taxation (really opening their books to Caesar via tax audits)—that is, if all this is not just another of their PR stunts. There are those broadcasts where GB members claim such financial woes.
Related to the above: the constant pleas for MORE MONEY.
A big one that the GB are so interested in keeping from the R&F:
the child sexual abuse lawsuits/coverups/disgraceful policies
Some of your points were mentioned by others, some were not. Perhaps you didn't want to repeat them? neat blue dog made some good ones which I quote, but in a list format:
the acceptance of Christian rock and other pop styles previously viewed as inappropriate
the overlapping generation being elaborated and cemented
dancing to pop songs in the Hall
putting on Broadway style plays
having red carpet events and other over the top attractions at international conventions
While on the music: the constant reworking of the songbook and new ones dribbling out in electronic release
I must have missed some too...
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The Craziness of an Average Bible Study
by Number 6 inlast week i posted a thread asking about who knew any "real anointed" and got some cracking replies.. that got me to thinking, as someone brought up in the 70's and 80's in the watchtower religion, my experience of bible studeis in their homes and those who made it to the hall were mostly batshit crazy or at least people with some serious quirks.. i'll relate a few, none of whose names i remember with any clarity.. in our cong we had an older couple who were from london, but who had been in the 1950's in the circuit work in the mid west usa.
they brought along some woman one night they had started a study with who told everyone cheerfully she was a recovering alcoholic and this was her cure (coming to the meetings).
this went on for a few weeks until one night they brought her to the memorial and she was royally pissed, and i mean barely able to stand; and went up to the platform table and necked some wine.
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Number 6: thanks for the story.
"one night they brought her to the memorial and she was royally pissed, and I mean barely able to stand; and went up to the platform table and necked some wine."
I would either have bust a gut in laughter or killed myself suppressing my desire to do so.
MacHislopp, you mentioned the Brumley info was in the early 90s. Can you please provide more detail as the exact time and location (what court case)? Thanks in advance.
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Master's Thesis on Witness CSA
by careful ini apologize if this has already been shared.
a chap named harvinder singh finished his ma thesis last year at the university of birmingham on csa among jws.
i think this may be the first of such academic works to directly deal with the matter.
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I apologize if this has already been shared. A chap named Harvinder Singh finished his MA thesis last year at the University of Birmingham on CSA among JWs. I think this may be the first of such academic works to directly deal with the matter. His stated thesis is not news to anyone here or elsewhere who has kept up on the matter:
"I argue that this religious organisation does not respond or adjust its doctrinal practices of child safeguarding in the face of criticism and recommendations of scholars, the mass media and the secular courts unless legislation requires it."
But what is of greater significance is that he may be beginning a trend among academics to deal with this subject matter, and that would then shine light on the issue and hopefully bring about further influence/pressure for organizational change. He brings in the ARC findings.
You can DLed it here. It's the first of his papers:
https://bham.academia.edu/HarvinderSingh
Clearly English is not Singh's native tongue, so you'll have to work through his sometimes poor language, but he offers enough content to see past that.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Email from JW relative/elder
by Lynnie inas much as i enjoy you and pete's company, you also know our understanding of how much we want you to be reunited with jehovah and his people.. .
we did not set the standards for what jehovah says about our associations with those who choose to not serve him.
so we will always be there for you and pete, but it is in your hands as to how we can enjoy your friendship.. .
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pale.emperor and johnamos:
NICE FINDS—THANKS!