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  Redding Drama

  by Bill Covert in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if any one was so inclined to go back to 2013 on the site and locate the posts on the note takers reporting on the 2013 convention [the release of the rnwt and gb demanding obedience] there were two note takers who reported on the main talk "human apostates" that there was a new tactic being used, letter writing to the publishers homes.

  the main subject of those letters was a elder joe moore.

  on 12-26-2007 i taped court case #149893 to kh doors.

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  Have you considered therapy?

  Indeed. Some people need to step outside themselves and wake up as to how they appear to others.

  Get a real life!
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  New lawsuit against the Watchtower in Ontario, Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.

  it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.

  i don’t have more details.

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  Thx yalbmert99, for the update. As we know, these legal matters take a long time. Please keep us posted. If you find some media coverage, please share the link.
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  New lawsuit against the Watchtower in Ontario, Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.

  it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.

  i don’t have more details.

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  What's the word, yalbmert99? Any word on how the trial is going? If it began on schedule, May 13-15, shouldn't there be some report/results by now?
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  Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

  especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

  yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

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  Thx, SBF, for the link/paper. Some thoughts:

  1. The social gospel stance of the two authors not only comes through clearly, but it's been published by George Fox Univ., which, while now officially claiming otherwise, is still tied to its Quaker roots. This is no accident.

  2. It was written in Jan. of 2021, just prior to the more complete invasion of Russia that has caused such consternation in Western Europe and the USA. Therefore, it still does not address the question in my OP: what is going on with the Witnesses there and their application of alternative service in an active war setting? It was one thing for the GB to theoretically green light an option like this for the R&F. It's quite another to apply it in wartime. Due to simple chronology the paper is useless on the issue.

  3. The authors do not seem to grasp how important certain NT teachings are to the GB and many R&F Witnesses, such as being no part of the world and getting out of Babylon the Great. The authors have this 'hopeful monster' view that somehow Witnesses are going to join the greater religious community in general. They might as well expect the pope to give up the mass!

  All that said, again, the link is appreciated. However, the org has seen fit to keep almost everything having to do with the Witnesses in the Ukraine during this war under tight wraps. Isn't that fact alone suspicious?

  Last month the Ukrainian government lowered the conscription age from 27 to 25. This fact will put pressure on more young Witnesses to leave the country or make them liable to this theoretical alternative service, whatever that is supposed to be.

  https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-conscription-mobilization-251058a942a253f3eaec2c53373adf03#:~:text=KYIV%2C%20Ukraine%20(AP)%20—,depleted%20ranks%20with%20new%20conscripts.
  
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  Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

  especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

  yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

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  Thanks so much for these responses to my OP.

  Gorb, your link is especially appreciated. Its author Kostyantyn Berezhkosure looks like a Witness trying hard to not reveal that fact, or at least a heavy sympathizer. What in the world is "candidate of historical sciences"?

  But there is still no clue as to just what alternative service the GB has green-lighted for Witnesses who have chosen to stay in the Ukraine. The GB are very tight-lipped in-house about just what is going on there. It makes me wonder why. When Russia clamped down on the Witnesses there, the GB played it up, even sending high-raking organizational figures there, asking for letters from publishers. Why this opposite tactic here?
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  Any news on JWs in the Ukraine?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the war in the ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the org on how the witnesses are doing there.

  especially of interest would be just how the org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is ok' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring.

  yet nothing is forthcoming from the gb on this matter, or any other issues, really.. does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the witnesses there?.

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  The war in the Ukraine has been going on for 2+ years now, yet very little has been put forth by the Org on how the Witnesses are doing there. Especially of interest would be just how the Org has implemented their relatively new 'alternative service is OK' policy in lieu of real military service in a place where warfare is actually occurring. Yet nothing is forthcoming from the GB on this matter, or any other issues, really.

  Does anyone know what's been going on the regarding the Witnesses there?
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  New lawsuit against the Watchtower in Ontario, Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.

  it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.

  i don’t have more details.

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  Thanks yalbmert99, for the further info. I guess that as the court begins to hear the lawsuit, news agencies will pick it up and report it. Please keep us informed!

  Then we can see what "new light" God's spokesmen come up with in reaction to Caesar's sword.

  
  
  
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  New lawsuit against the Watchtower in Ontario, Canada

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  the new class action lawsuit against the watchtower for having covered up child sexual abuse will begin in court on may 13-14-15, 2024 in the province of ontario, canada.

  it is not the same as in the province of quebec because the laws aren't the same.

  i don’t have more details.

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  Thanks yalbmert99, for the info. I tried a search to find out more info but couldn't find anything. Do you have a link with more?
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  2024-04-April-S-147-Announcements And Reminders!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2024-04-april-announcements and reminders.. (3. bible studies: recent reports indicate that in some lands the number of bible studies is decreasing.).

  4 pages.

  https://pdfupload.io/docs/e3685cbe .

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  in some lands
  

  Any Western ones?
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  Can God Change his Mind?

  by peacefulpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  is 31:yet he also is wise and will bring disaster and does not retract his words.. 1 sam 15: furthermore, the eternal one of israel does not lie or change his mind, for he is not man who changes his mind.. numbers 23: god is not a man who lies, or a son of man who changes his mind.

  does he speak and not act, or promise and not fulfill?.

  when the god you worship pronounces judgement, is he, really just issuing a warning or has the matter been determined through all the godly powers of insight, foresight and perfect judgement?

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  This sounds very much like Open Theism:

  https://iep.utm.edu/o-theism/#:~:text=Open%20Theism%20is%20the%20thesis,freely%20do%20in%20the%20future.