Posts by careful

Beside her comments on WT "study" articles, her regularly helping out with finding stuff in old WTS publications was quite nice. She often did research and shared her findings with others here, even unsolicitedly. I sure appreciated that!

Plenty of past contributors here have decided to move on in their lives, past being ex-JW, and have left the forum. We all know this. Perhaps it just took her longer to do so? Or maybe some health issue has come up, like Diogs. has inferred?

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Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue Owners of FaithLeaks for Posting 74 Convention Movies

by AndersonsInfo in

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https://news.bloomberglaw.com/ip-law/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-faithleaks-owners-over-convention-videos .

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/05/01/jehovahs-witnesses-sue-owners-of-faithleaks-for-posting-74-convention-movies/.

the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, which oversees the jehovah’s witnesses, is suing the truth and transparency foundation and its founders ryan c. mcknight and ethan g. dodge alleging copyright infringement..

careful

Thanks, Corney, for the update. Sad news though.

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Jessica Leigh Collins - do you believe her story (Epstein)

by Anony Mous in

as i was researching some stuff about this epstein guy and came across postings about jessica leigh collins.. her twitter has most of her story: https://twitter.com/midnitemj but it is actively being suppressed by twitter - a regular search on twitter doesn't get her account as a result and none of her posts have been seen by more than a few hundred people.

many media outlets have tagged her as "russian troll" while she doesn't seem anything like it.

it certainly is way too detailed and is going on for way too long to be a troll nor is her story being artificially trended or upvoted, fact is, the posts have virtually no upvotes or retweets even though people elsewhere claimed they tried.. what i can gather is that she came out about being trafficked by epstein but quickly found out that nobody is actually interested in her story.

careful

I can only speculate that Epstein's protection........ until he lost it........may have been possible because he had photographic images and film of powerful men not only using prostitutes but also minors.

Might this be what Putin has on Trump?

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Former Bethelite from Service Department blogs about his experiences

by krismalone in

this blog is worth mentioning again under a different title to attract more viewers.. former bethelite john bechtel who served 10 yrs at wt headquarters including the secretive and powerful service department, writes about his experiences and what woke him up.. https://www.johnbechtelblog.com/tag/jehovahs-witnesses/.

careful

Thanks for sharing this, km. It might prove informative.

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Another shocking JW Abuse case, with Legal Commentary

by Phizzy in

"16 april 2020 | comment | article by alan collins.

jehovah’s witness elder sentenced to nine years in prison for sexual abuse.

jehovah’s witness elder, clifford whiteley, has been sentenced to nine years in prison at the birmingham crown court for sexual abuse offences he committed against a child member of the congregation over ten years ago.. mr whiteley initially denied the offences to the police, despite the fact that he had admitted his guilt during an internal investigation of the jehovah’s witnesses.. during court proceedings, mr whiteley’s defence counsel, sharon bailey, stated that the jehovah’s witnesses refused to disclose the details of his confession to the police.

careful

Thanks Phiz.

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Australia - Selling Off Assets

by Pants of Righteousness in

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this article seems to confirm what we already knew:.

https://thewest.com.au/news/australia/jehovahs-witnesses-accused-of-selling-off-assets-and-moving-cash-to-avoid-sex-abuse-compensation-ng-08ffe6d55e293182580d9e34b4400088?transactionid=72145.

careful

Thanks for the info/update.

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Did they use to applaud after reinstatement after being Disfellowshipped, but then it stopped?

by ThomasCovenant in

i don't remember disfellowshippings happening very often and announcements about being re instated but i think i remember that we used to clap hands if someone came back after being disfellowshipped.

but then i think clapping wasn't allowed.

am i correct in my recollections?.

careful

Just ask David Splane, "Here's what we believe ..."

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Sued by inmate, North Carolina concedes Witnesses are distinct faith group, not subset of Protestants

by Corney in

last thursday poyner spruill, a prominent north carolina law firm, announced a victory in a pro bono case involving religious freedom of incarcerated jehovah's witnesses.

the poyner team was appointed by the u.s. district court for the western district of north carolina to represent an inmate challenging the state’s policy governing how and when jehovah’s witnesses can worship in prison.

the state’s policy classified jehovah’s witnesses as a subset of christian protestants and, on that basis, prohibited separate jehovah’s witness meetings—an infringement on religious freedom under the first amendment.

careful

Thanks, Corney. Catholics would qualify with those 7 points too! "Exercise their faith" is exclusively a WTS/NWT term, eh? So if the other side's argument included it, then they must have done so intentionally. You're certainly right that if those other groups got to have separate meetings, JWs should have too. I can't help but wonder what else was up here, maybe some Protestant chaplain wanting to "convert" JWs? Or if the "single person" was Brown, maybe the chaplain was trying to convert him? Or maybe just keep visiting JWs out of the prison? Or maybe it was money? It "would be a tremendous burden on Alexander C.I."

"he must be unconditionally released"—it doesn't sound like Brown is in any position to tell the judiciary what they "must" do. He wouldn't be making any points there. Again, we'll have to see if this merits any mention at JW-DOT-org.

"Wasn't it a great witness?"—hmmmmmmmm.

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Sued by inmate, North Carolina concedes Witnesses are distinct faith group, not subset of Protestants

by Corney in

last thursday poyner spruill, a prominent north carolina law firm, announced a victory in a pro bono case involving religious freedom of incarcerated jehovah's witnesses.

the poyner team was appointed by the u.s. district court for the western district of north carolina to represent an inmate challenging the state’s policy governing how and when jehovah’s witnesses can worship in prison.

the state’s policy classified jehovah’s witnesses as a subset of christian protestants and, on that basis, prohibited separate jehovah’s witness meetings—an infringement on religious freedom under the first amendment.

careful

Thanks, Corney for the post. The Marshall Lee Brown story seems really bizarre. So if he lives until 102, he can get released!

What were the arguments from the other side? Perhaps that JWs are Protestants because they grew out of the Protestant Reformation, specifically out of Second Adventism, and use a Protestant Bible canon? Or were such theological arguments not important? It will be interesting to see if the organization makes any official announcement about this being a victory for them. It does seem strange that the NC prison admin would not allow JWs to meet separately. It looks like they got what their own stupidity brought on themselves.

After reading the wiki article I saw this: "He will be eligible for parole at age 63." My math must be off...