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  Federal court in Montana asked to impose sanctions on Watch Tower and its top lawyers Brumley and Taylor

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  in two child abuse cases litigated in a us district court in montana, plaintiffs recently filed identical motions for sanctions against watch tower pa, philip brumley (general counsel for whq/wt) and joel taylor (associate general counsel for wt), accusing them of lying to court and vexatiously delaying the case:.

  here, with the hope that the court would dismiss plaintiffs’ cases against wtpa, in-house counsel brumley signed affidavits that were materially false and intentionally misleading.

  doc.

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  Thanks Corney. Do you think this will actually go anywhere?
  
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  Unitarian Universalist: Anyone Familiar?

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i hope you are all doing well.. has anyone had an encounter with a unitarian universalist?

  my wife has a friend who invited us to their church a few years ago.

  we never went lol.

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  SBF hasn't weighed in on this one—I'm shocked! He must be offline or something.
  
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  Is the Bethel Farm in Wallkill Co. still there?

  by Etude in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've been out of this loop (or any other) for a while.

  can someone tell me if the bethel farm facilities are still there in wallkill county, ny?

  i was there for about a year.

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  Etude, yes, more of your story would be welcome. Wallkill is now where the USA branch is located---talk about a transformation!
  
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  Those members who passed away

  by Gorb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  who of those passed away jwd/jwn members, do we think of??.

  oompah and the lady from australia, are there more??.

  g..

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  Thanks, Ernest for the post. I was wondering about Old Goat too. Anyone know if he's still around?
  
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  Lawsuit: I said GB member Barr that my Bethelite stepfather abused me; he did nothing

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  here's an excerpt from the recent lawsuit deborah hines v. watchtower bible and tract society of new york et al (paragraphs 158-180), one of 29 known cases brought against the org pursuant to the ny child victims act.

  what should be kept in mind is that gerrit lösch apparently worked in europe (the austrian branch and eastern europe) at the time when the abuse was allegedly reported to him (not a gb member then).. plaintiff was raised a member of the jehovah’s witnesses.

  she primarily attended meetings at various congregations in arizona.

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  Thanks Corney for this report.

  nowwhat?, she was told by "God's organization" not to go to the cops! As someone raised in and probably very naive, she believed it.

  If this story ever really got out to the R&F, the repercussions would be huge.
  
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  PIMO elder

  by Reservations in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i’m reservations, pimo elder.

  i’m in no position to leave the organisation, maybe some people will see that as weak or whatever, but we have to all go down our own path in life.. i would like to be able to wake people up in my congregation, how do you think best to do this?

  any ideas?.

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  Res,

  What will you do if you are put into a position of defending org policies that you disagree with, whether it be something huge like DFing someone for reasons you no longer believe in, or something less drastic like defending some weird teaching?

  Also is your family situation at work in you feeling you're not able to step down?

  C
  
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  The King of the North and the South, who are they now?

  by Anony Mous in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know several wit-lesses that to date are researching these topics.. however i haven't heard much from any publications recently about it, i think the latest refresh was ~10 years ago.

  since then the power of the us has severely diminished (or at least the rhetorics about it has), russia is a small potato in modern era, the eu is a cowardly dog in the eyes of everyone and we have the rise of china which is as far as military might is concerned, a paper tiger.. we also have the rise of islam, especially since the end of the nato nation-building effort in afghanistan which is now in power in most of the middle east and africa, as well as regions of asia and growing strong in europe.. does anyone have noooo light about these developments.

  is islam the king of the south?

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  "King of the North? Russia and pals at any moment, but beware things could change, they could be overlapping....." love it mikeflood!

  Then there's always the option that the the King of the N and S could become acceptable and unacceptable fragments! "The four basic components of the King of the N are ..." And the faithful will be hanging on every word...
  

  Stay tuned to David Splane. The suspense is huge...
  
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  CO said; “Friends (plural) who’ve been raised in the truth are beginning to have doubts regarding their faith”

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here is what a co said at the elders and ms meeting.

  it goes to show that no matter how hard the governing body tries to instill fear of apostates, it's just not working on the young crowd of jws.. it's a new generations of born in jws--------and they don't buy this shit anymore.

  it's really over for the watchtower.

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  Thx so much PP for the OP and report. Thx too FFG for your thoughts. Those in charge of the org are really living in their own world, out of touch with young Witnesses. Indeed, it will be educational to see how things develop when in-person meetings and the D2D work begins again.

  
  
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  What is it with these lard ass GB and gold rings and watches?

  by mickbobcat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  they wear jewelry like they are some don from the cosa nostra.

  watches and rings like some cheap pimp.

  hey they are cheap pimps.

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  These are gifts that wealthy Witnesses give the power structure to earn brownie points from "God's spokesmen." It's the ultimate "green handshake." They also get free trips overseas from such ones. After getting such gifts the GB members "feel grateful" and show it by wearing such expensive jewelry.
  
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  Leaked David Spane Apostate Rant? (Upcoming Lloyd Evans Video)

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  lloyd has a reminder set for a "leaked" video that he will be reviewing tomorrow, but it lacks details in the description.

  does anyone know what video he is referring to, or is this an upcoming loyd evans exclusive?.

  i find leaks exciting, especially if it's something that was never meant to be public and puts some serious egg on the faces of the blundering body..

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  DOC and pistolpete: spot on!