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  Old Light!

  by Deputy Dog in

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  2. beliefs

  the jws just walked away from my front door, while i'm sitting here on jwd.

  my wife is home, sick from work so i didn't answer the door.

  the funny thing is, they left the october 1, 2004 watchtower.

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  Woodsman

  Deputy Dog,

  I love trick you played. I took a picture of The Time is at Hand with Luke 21:8 in the background and showed a witness, they almost puked.

  If I can ever figure out how to post a picture I'll upload it.
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  Switching Holy Ghost on and off and using KGB as Gods servants...

  by Trojan in

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  2. bible

  this weeks study of daniel's prophecy book.

  this one made me really feel sick....

  chapter 16, page 273-275 #7-10. i never saw this and it was there - all the time!

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  Woodsman

  I think it is easy to understand why they provide that interpretation. Start with reality and work backward to the interpretation.

  JWs for years have used their own experiences to interprete the Bible. If they see KGB infiltrating their ranks they have to believe that this was something Jehovah allowed or else how could it happen? Next they look for scriptures they can use to support this interpretation and explain the events.
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  Watchtower can be sued for NOT allowing blood transfusions ???

  by run dont walk in

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  i was watching the news today in alberta canada, saw a preview for the 6 o'clock news tonight mountain time channel 3, there will be a piece about a former jw, father (i believe it is lawrence) who's daughter died of leukima, and was not allowed to have blood because of her religion.

  apparently the court has ruled that he can sue the watchtower for negligence, hopefully someone can tape this news piece and put in on the net, unfortunately i don't know how to do that.. go lawrence !!!!!!!!

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  Woodsman

  I hope it gets lots of publicity.
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  Memorial Partaker numbers must stop before Armageddon comes.

  by gumby in

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  2. beliefs

  according to statements in the past from the society regarding the time when those in the graves worthy of an earthly resurection will recieve their reward....it seems the idiots didn't think of something that would have made a bit more sense.. in the article below....they state the resurection cannot take place until all those of the annointed class are dead and resurected first......yet they continually printed the numbers of those still left on earth while at the same time....preached the end was anytime now.

  kinda dumb ain't it?.

  w83 3/15 21-2 "be joyful forever" *** .

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  Woodsman

  I don't have the WTS cd rom on this machine so I can't provide any reference but I thought the Chosens ones in Mathew 24 were the annointed and since the tribulation is cut short on account of the chosen ones they must be alive when it is cut short. So I thought that is what the WTS taught.

  Now I can see they are not sure what they teach and say the bible does not say. Hmmm.
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  'I could easily kill someone' said the P.O.

  by lowden in

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  2. friends

  inspired by one of the other threas on todays board i was remindedof what the po of my 'then' cong' said just befors i left for good.. can't remember what the subject was but he ended up quite proudly announcing.....'if jehovah asked me to.....i would have no trouble killing someone, i would find it easy'!!

  stunned silence.......this man is now a circuit overseer!

  the phrase 'crazed extremist' comes to mind.. what was the most unbelievable, outrageous thing that was uttered in your earshot.

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  Woodsman

  Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship.

  I think the JWs forget that they were apostates first. They are apostate Catholics and Protestants and Hindu and muslims etc...

  If the law permitted killing apostates there would be no JW org.

  Maybe its time to change the law.
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  Elder's KM School notes and apostates

  by beavis in

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  2. scandals

  this is a message to sir82 or anyone with information on the recent kingdom ministry school, .

  i have had several discussions with a friend of mine whose brother went to km school and he said there was information given about those who no longer attend meetings and are baptized "are sort of viewed as apostates".

  i was speaking with a family member of mine concerning this issue and two questions arose: 1. are the notes from the recent km school acurate?

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  Woodsman

  What Sunday talk on apostacy? Was this worldwide?
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  Respect your Elders - they just moved up a class!

  by unclebruce in

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  i just found this article from fellow adelaidite b kotwall.

  elders now are "glorious ones"

  in the past the watchtower society (wts) claimed that the "glorious ones" in 2 peter 2:10-12 and jude 8 are of the "anointed" or "144,000" or "remnant" of such.

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  Its the subtle setup to having the great crowd run the org when the annointed can't or are all dead. By applying scriptures once only applied to the annointed to the great crowd they will be able to pull it off.
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  Hello everyone

  by JUG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hello everybody i just discovered this site a few days ago and am now formaly introducing my self.

  i am 23 years old, i was born and raised in the truth, then about 2 1/2 ears ago i got discfellowshiped.

  i didn't know anything else besides the truth.

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  Woodsman

  I go to college instead of the Kingdom hall too. Not only have I gotten a better job but I feel so much more satisfied knowing I'm using my abilities to the full instead of playing dumb as a JW.
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  So, why didn't Jesus write anything down?

  by poppers in

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  2. beliefs

  terry's thread on who is right - jesus or paul, got me to wondering; why didn't jesus write anything down?

  surely he would know that the things he said would be written down at some point, and that this would be the beginning of misunderstanding what he was saying.

  secondhand accounts of spoken words have a way of changing dramatically from the original words.

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  Woodsman

  The only logical conclusion is that what has become of Christianity is exactly what Jesus wanted to happen. If not he could have as you point out taken measures to ensure accurracy.

  Therefore accurracy really doesn't matter. Stop trying to figure everything out and you will be wiser than most.
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  Need helping printing UN letter

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

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  2. scandals

  clyde wants to see the wt response letter to the un letter that was posted on 2-10-06. it was a two-page letter.

  i can print it out, but it is very fuzzy.

  i changed the print command from "normal" to "best" but still can't get a good copy.

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  Woodsman

  Yes please tell where the source letter is.