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  SURVIVAL INTO A NEW EARTH Quote - what was it and where is it?

  by VM44 in

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  just a few days ago someone posted here a very good quote from the 1984 survival into a new earth book.

  it contained a statement that was just flat out wrong.

  i remembered thinking that it was a very good quote to have for reference.. of course, now i can't find the thread, and can't remember the quote!!!!.

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  Woodsman

  Very observant observador,

  I am regularly frustrated at the WTS's failing to account for failed prophesies, expectations or "light".

  There are many more things they have claimed that have not come to pass than is currently published on the internet or elsewhere.

  When I was a witness we used to look for the latest WT comment on a subject or scripture to have the current belief.

  Yet often their last comment was obviously wrong and they have never corrected it.

  The more you look the more you find. Often these false beliefs were the basis for a current belief. So if the basis was false is the current belief still valid?

  I belief the WTS can no longer provide a consistent harmonious explanation of their doctrine without creating serious questions and exposing doctrine destroying flaws.

  That I believe is why they no loger try.
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  Johannes Greber

  by RevFrank in

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  2. scandals

  who was johannes greber?

  johannes greber was an ex-catholic priest who took it upon himself to translate his own version of the new testament.

  to aid him in this endeavor, he contacted the "spiritworld" to reveal the proper remderings of the scriptures he sought.

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  Woodsman

  Another example of the WTS thinking that the average JW is not going to do the research to find out the truth about the publications that the WTS uses. Admittedly it was much harder before the internet was commonly available.

  No doubt this is why the WTS seldom provides references to the publications they quote from. Fortunately some find the books anyway and publish the titles for comparison. I love all the exposes that are out there now.
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  I'm Not Going To Heaven......

  by prophecor in

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  2. beliefs

  .....but i'm going to a church that thinks they all are.

  they preach a good game but in the end, i still believe in the paradise on earth theology.

  i'm split right down the middle, as i cannot get away from the belief that only a few were ever good enough to get to heaven.

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  Woodsman

  Change your Church,

  I knew a born again who had pretty good scriptural arguements for believing that the door to heaven is not closed behind you. She belived that after going to heaven Christians could come down to earth and live here again in a new earth.

  Jerusalem coming down from heaven.

  God dwelling with mankind.

  If you feel strongly one way or the other why not seek out those who feel as you do?
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  Do you still believe?

  by Chimene in

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  2. beliefs

  i have found a lot of people no longer believe in god or jesus since leaving the organization.. im very shocked at this.

  if you dont believe, can you tell me what brought to that conclusion?.

  i was told to look at the thread that one of the members in this forum has created, they are very interesting, but i wanted to get a some feed back from different individuals.. thanks!

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  Woodsman

  I have alot of questions and am enjoying the freedom to ask them.

  I would rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that cannot be questioned.

  At times I may challenge the Bible, and at other times I will challenge others who do so.

  So long as I don't lie to myself or others, its all cool.
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  Which do YOU do.....play by the Witnesses Rules....or by YOUR own Rules?

  by gumby in

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  2. beliefs

  some of us here remember threads about how some here have decided not to play by dub rules in the area of shunning.

  for instance.....they say "since the borg is a bogus religion and since it's shunning policies are not biblically nor morally based in most cases, they fell they should freely speak to other jehovahs witnesses whenever they wish even though they know the witnesses are to shun them when approched or contacted by them.

  they feel they do not need to play by dub standards when around a dub any longer and one reason is.....they do not want the dub to feel that you think they are right and you are wrong by playing the part of a shunned person.

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  Woodsman

  I'm not DFed but if I was I would raise my hands in the air, howl like a ghost and chase them.
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  Watchtower Predictions and Prophetic Announcements

  by Honesty in

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  2. beliefs

  how many of them have been fulfilled exactly as the watchtower stated they would be?.

  how many of them have actually come true?.

  based on your answers to the above questions does the watchtower meet the criteria of a false prophet as outlined in deuteronomy 18:18-22?

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  Actually Russell and Rutherford predicted the return of the Israelites to the land of Palestine. Israel did return and became a state in 1949. Too bad the WTS dropped this interpretation or they could claim some credibility.
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  What is the time limit to eat a found dead animal and not be punished?

  by Joe Witless in

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  2. medical

  ( le 17:15,16 ) as for any soul that eats a body (already) dead.

  or something torn by a wild beast , whether a native or an.

  alien resident , he must in that case wash his garments and .

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  I have animals in my freezer for months before I eat them. Guess God didn't know about freezers.
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  Who's more ignorant--

  by MerryMagdalene in

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  2. bible

  them for believing this or me for not being able to believe it (and not being able to stop chuckling)?it should be realized that the bible does not say that any mountains in noah's day were as tall as mount everest.

  scientists have said that in the past many of the mountains were much lower than at present and that some have even been pushed up from under the seas.

  furthermore, it is believed that there was a time when the oceans themselves were smaller and the continents were larger than they are now, as testified to by river channels extending far out under the oceans.

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  Scientists have said

  Are these the same scientists who the WTS says cannot be trusted when their findings contradict the WTS?

  Classic Cherry Picking!
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  The Watchtower and John 10:16

  by Honesty in

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  2. beliefs

  one only has to be aware of the relationship between a shepherd and his sheep to understand that the jw doctrine of 2 classes of christians, one with a heavenly destiny and the other an earthly one is terribly flawed.

  i lay down my life for the sheep.

  then there will be one flock, one shepherd.

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  Woodsman

  Here are some good questions IP-SEC,

  Wasn't Jesus sent to preach to the Jews, the lost sheep of Israel?-Yes

  Were the Gentile Christians sheep? -Yes

  So the Gentile Christians were other sheep?- Yes

  Did they join the Jewish Christian sheep and become one flock? -Yes
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  Revelation It's Grand Climax at Hand! - bookstudy

  by TheListener in

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  2. bible

  i was reading e-watchman today and someone there is saying that after studying the what does the bible really teach book at bookstudies the next book will be the revelation book!!!.

  there isn't any real proof, but the poster claimed a letter from bethel stated this.

  perhaps some here can dig around and confirm or deny this new rumor.. we've studied it 3 times in the past and it's been awhile.

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  Woodsman

  Well, that should bring more to their senses. The book is pretty ridiculous in its application of prophetic fulfillment to the JWs.