You can call 800-why-1914. It's a helpline for people leaving the Watchtower. Marylin, who answers the phone is a counselor, as well as an xjw. She can refer you to someone who lives in your area to talk to.
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Scared....
by coolcat inhello all.
i just joined the site.
does anyone know of a hotline or a phone number i can call to talk to someone about how to leave the truth?
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My daughter had a showdown with her aunt
by coffee_black inmy daughter's aunt (my x sil, and a jw) moved into my daughter's neigborhood recently.
she has had nothing to do with my daughter in over 15 years.
my daughter was never baptized, but her aunt chose to basically ignore her existence for all these years.
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Thanks for the input... That woman is like a steamroller.... I live in MA...my daughter is in Florida...or I'd be over there taking her on personally. 'course she'd keep her distance if I was there...'cause i'm an evil apostate.
My daughter was never baptized...but this woman shunned her anyway for 15 years. It amazing to me that she thinks she can waltz back into my daughter's life and influence her kids. If she was really sincere, she would first appologize for her treatment of my daughter and apologize for ignoring her all these years
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My daughter had a showdown with her aunt
by coffee_black inmy daughter's aunt (my x sil, and a jw) moved into my daughter's neigborhood recently.
she has had nothing to do with my daughter in over 15 years.
my daughter was never baptized, but her aunt chose to basically ignore her existence for all these years.
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My daughter's aunt (my x sil, and a jw) moved into my daughter's neigborhood recently. She has had nothing to do with my daughter in over 15 years. My daughter was never baptized, but her aunt chose to basically ignore her existence for all these years. My daughter is now 30 and has children of her own, and suddenly, since moving into the neighborhood her aunt is attempting to get my grandchildren to spend time with her. She just shows up when they are out in the yard playing, and has attempted to get them to come over to her house. The oldest told her that he doesn't talk to strangers. My granddaughter is a social butterfly and talks to her.
My daughter is furious, and has told her to stay away from her children. Her aunt said that they are her flesh and blood, and she has every right to spend time with them. My daughter said she doesn't want the children exposed to the cult. Besides, when she was younger, this aunt did serious damage to her self esteem, and she has no intention of letting her aunt repeat the process with her children. My daughter asked her what her motives were after all these years to just suddenly show up and push herself on them. It blew up, and my daughter is very upset. She has to work crazy hours, and has a live in sitter taking care of them when she's working, and her aunt seems to pick those times to push her weight around with the babysitter.
I told my daughter that she should consider getting a restraining order. She doesn't need to be held hostage in her own home.
Sheesh...do these people ever get it?
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Do you find the forum addictive?
by avidbiblereader inhow many find that they need or want to be on the forum at least once a day?
do you like keeping up with fellow posters and friends or do like being able to give your thoughts without the fear of being criticized?
i look at some of the amounts that some have posted wow and i am no better for only being here less than a month, it is a great place to talk and get loads of wisdom from others on a variety of subjects, thanks everyone for the thoughtful expressions and heartfelt posts.. abr.
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In spurts....I go for ages without posting...then will find a subject that catches my attention, and I'll post... Then I leave for a while. I check back every so often, but I'm not here regularly.
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Slyvia Browne
by Blueblades inis she for real?
what do you know about her and books?
she is on montell williams right now.. blueblades.
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Hi Mulan,
It's not just the jewelry...that's just one thing I mentioned as an example...Just by looking at you and observing your body language, they can pick up a lot. of info about you. They can tell your approximate age.. the quality, cut and style of your clothing will give them clues as to your lifestyle and your taste. How you carry yourself, your mannerisms..., there's a lot they can pick up before you say a word. Once you do speak, most people give more info without realizing it. Your speach patterns give further clues. Your reactions to what they are telling you also gives them more info. Then, the things they tell you are worded in such a way that they can be interpreted in numerous ways. You are already predisposed to try to make what they say fit into your own circumstances. My best friend does this all the time when she has readings. I just shake my head...
Even if everything they said was accurate...and they can tell you about what you do for a living etc....what purpose does it serve? Don't you already know what you do for a living? If they tell you you are creative (that's one they always say to my best friend) wouldn't you already know that? It just seems silly to me. When all is said and done, do they give you info you didn't already know that will improve your life somehow? Seems like such a waste of time and money to me. My friend spends a lot on this... and really can't afford it. If it's just entertainment....maybe, but my best friend hangs on every word.
I saw a documentary recently where several people went to a person claiming to be a psychic for a reading. The "psychic" (who really wasn't) told each of them the exact same thing...word for word...didn't alter it a bit. Every one of these people came out of the 'reading" raving about the experience...amazed that the reader could give them so much accurate specific info about their life. It's all in the wording... and each of these people were of different ages, races and sexes... but it was a one size fits all reading. Each one had taken what they were told and made it fit their lives...even though their lives were completely different. At the end, the people putting on the documentary let these people in on what was really going on. Every single one was shocked that they had been duped...
I guess this subject gets to me because I see my best friend getting more and more involved with this stuff every day. She is now seeing everything through an astrology filter. In a recent conversation I told her that in my own spiritual journey I don't need a middle man (reader) to tell me what I already know about myself. I don't want to know the future. I want to travel my journey living my life day by day, not looking for signs of what the "universe is trying to tell me" I don't need a "science" (astrology) to tell me my strengths, weaknesses and talents etc. I already know about them. Her spiritual belief system involves all of those things. My spiritual belief system simply involves a one on one relationship with God. She responded that that's because I have "Sagitarius" as my rising sign.
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What Do You Do for Work?
by Good Girl or Bad Girl? inso, i have a good job, but i hate my boss.
it's gotten to the point (beyond the point) that i just need to get outta here.
it's not even worth going to hr about because she makes sure you get fired if you do that, but not before dragging your reputation through the mud.
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Architectural Rep for a major Window Manufacturer. You would recognize the name, one of the top 3.
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Slyvia Browne
by Blueblades inis she for real?
what do you know about her and books?
she is on montell williams right now.. blueblades.
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Mulan,
They are trained to pick up on things...for example, jewelry can give clues...such as whether or not you're married... sometimes women wear bracelets with the birthstones of their children... it can be many things.... I wasn't there, so I can't get too specific...but most people give away more info than they realize. ..The thing about your father is obvious.... who doesn't have an older man somewhere in their life...and she made it even more general by saying he could be dead.... Same words would have worked if your father died 5 or 10 years ago.... you just made it fit your circumstances....filled in the blanks. That would have fit me too... she could have said the same thing to me, and it could fit my life too...
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Slyvia Browne
by Blueblades inis she for real?
what do you know about her and books?
she is on montell williams right now.. blueblades.
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My best friend is into this stuff. I love her to death, but she talks about it all the time...and it gets old pretty fast. She goes to readings a lot, and loves it. They talk in such generalities...and then she looks around to try to make it fit. For example, a recent one told her that there's a couple she is close to that has a fiery relationship that isn't healthy. Ok...so who doesn't know such a couple? She then tries to figure out who it could be... My questions to her were...even if you know who it is, why is it important for you to know this? What are you supposed to do about it....how does it effect your life? So what was the purpose of this reading? She also believes in signs...for example, a tampon fell from a cabinet in the morning...and someone dropped a receipt for tampons later that day. She took that to mean that she'll be gettin her period soon. I said...um that's called gravity... by that reasoning if I can't find my hairbrush...does that mean I'll be losing my hair?! If that's the case, I should be bald by now! There are no accidents according to her...so if a picture falls from the wall...could mean disaster for the person in the picture... Sorry I just don't want to live like that...
She talks about astrology all the time and believes it's a science....There's hardly a conversation that she doesn't try to insert astrology into... reminds me of an new jw who has to witness all the time....
She thinks she's psychic... what I can't figure out is that if she really is, why hasn't she figured out that I her best friend is not interested in this stuff?
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Do you have any "old friends"?
by AlmostAtheist inhey all,.
i was thinking today that many of us lack something that other people enjoy -- old friends.
we either weren't close to our high school friends, or sort of shut them out of our lives.
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I have been friends with my best friend since we were 6 years old. (my mom brought her family into the organization) She left the borg years before I did, but I refused to shun her. She has always been like a sister to me. Her family is out now too, and we're all good friends. My bf is an xjw too...in fact we dated when I was in my teens.... Life is good
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Roll call time - What KH's have you attended.............
by Check_Your_Premises innaperville, dekalb, joliet......... il.
i tried to bump an old thread on this topic, but i couldn't find it.. anyone?
beuller?.
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In Massachusetts: Hyde Park, Fairhaven, Vineyard Haven, Sharon
In California: Toluca Lake
In Florida: Winter Garden, Rosemont
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