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BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?
by 88JM in
1. watchtower
2. bible
was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

" which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.
wizzstick

on Google there are about 100,000 references each to Jerusalem and 586 or 587

there are about 2,000,000 references to 607

Gah!
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BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?
by 88JM in
1. watchtower
2. bible
was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

" which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.
wizzstick

I doubt they looked at an old source, why would they? We'd be talking about a book from the 19th century!

Either someone got it from JW literature or from a pro-JW site. No one else talks about 607.

All historians site 586/587BC or 587BC as the correct date for the fall of Jerusalem. And all historical/Wiki websites do the same.
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BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?
by 88JM in
1. watchtower
2. bible
was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

" which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.
wizzstick

Thanks Searcher.

Have posted that link on JWR (credited to your good self) on a thread I've started there on this nonsense.
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BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?
by 88JM in
1. watchtower
2. bible
was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

" which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.
wizzstick

I have it as an MP3. How do I upload the section?

You could use SoundCloud:

https://soundcloud.com/

Then post the link here.
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BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?
by 88JM in
1. watchtower
2. bible
was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

" which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.
wizzstick

Clicking on Show more it states:

Producer: David Prest and Gil Percival
A Whistledown production for BBC Radio 4

But as they made this for BBC Radio 4, the form linked below probably is the best way of raising this:

https://ssl.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006slnx/contact

I'm going to drop them a polite message and ask that they to broadcast a correction. This is the problem when a publishing house like the Watchtower prints made up history to support its doctrine - it can end up in the mainstream. The BBC is a public service broadcaster so it is vital they get subjects like history correct and need to be held to account when they don't.

Unbelievable.
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BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?
by 88JM in
1. watchtower
2. bible
was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

" which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.
wizzstick

Good grief!

You are absolutely right.

Ok - I'm off to find out which muppets made this.
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Florida' s Gold Coast-- Latest WatchTower REAL ESTATE
by rip van winkle in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
http://gotoby.com/news/article/2245/watchtower-buys-former-faa-training-facility-in-palm-coast-for-$7025000.

watchtower buys former faa training facility in palm coast for $7,025,000the facility was owned by embry riddle and had been leased to the faa.

watchtower plans to use the facility in much the same manner as did the faa.by toby tobinadd a comment palm coast, fl june 30, 2014 watchtower, an entity ofjehovahs witnesses, purchased the former faa training facility in palm coast from embry riddle aeronautical university for $7,025,000.
wizzstick

Sales brochure:

http://www.showcase.com/property/4500-Palm-Coast-Parkway-SE/Palm-Coast/Florida/9289900

So they got nearly a $0.5M discount.

And it has a nice swimming pool too!

All together now... Foxes have dens and birds have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head...
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JW.org says that the Bible knew that the earth was suspended in empty space
by opusdei1972 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
"the earth is suspended in empty space.

(job 26:7) many ancient peoples believed that the world was a flat disk supported by a giant or an animal, such as a buffalo or a turtle.".

http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/science-and-the-bible/.
wizzstick

On a different but related point, the WT likes to suggest that Isaiah 40:22 says:

There is One who dwells above the circle* of the earth,

The * states 'or "sphere"'. Problem is, that the hebrew word for sphere is dur: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/1754.htm

But the Hebrew word for circle is chug: http://biblehub.com/hebrew/chug_2329.htm

As in a compass circle, or the circle of a camp. Something more like a disc.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Does_the_Hebrew_word_Chuwg_mean_a_flat_circle_like_a_coin_or_a_sphere_Isaiah_C40_verse_22

Another WT myth exposed!
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JW.org says that the Bible knew that the earth was suspended in empty space
by opusdei1972 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
"the earth is suspended in empty space.

(job 26:7) many ancient peoples believed that the world was a flat disk supported by a giant or an animal, such as a buffalo or a turtle.".

http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/science-and-the-bible/.
wizzstick

By contrast, Hinduism demonstrated a far better appreciation of sizes and timescales (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalpa_(time_unit) ) if not of structure, and much earlier on at that.

You do realise that most on here are atheists nowadays?

We've left one lot of religious nutters, we don't need any other religious nonsense thanks!
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If a Nuclear War Was to Start would you start praying again
by cassuk11 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
i would be interested to know if the announcement came of an immenent nuclear war would you start praying or get drunk etc etc..
wizzstick

My point is when your life is about to end i think everyone would cry out to God to help them whether you beleive in God or not

Which God?

Yahweh?

Zeus?

Baal?

What if you die praying to the wrong one? What would be the point then.

What if there is no God. What would be achieved by praying?