i'm not jw, so i see this all standing up and very clear from an outsider perspective (i am still seeking my path).
i joined the blog a few weeks ago.
i dated a divorced jw (jw from birth) for a couple of years recently.
The greatest challenge of all? Most people inside high control groups don't want to leave. That includes JW's.
Now that we've left that may seem mad, but there you go. They simply want to stay in. Experience shows me that you have to play a waiting game.
It's frustrating but unless people are ready to 'wake up', any campaigns will be viewed as persecution and be seen as proof of how right they really are.
It's an Orwellian world in there.
somewhat just posted a link to www.jw2016.borg (remove the b ) which is an up-and-running site for 2016 dub conventions.the borg has also registered jw2017, jw2018, jw2019, and jw2020 (all .org)however, they have not reg'd jw2021.therefore, the conclusion in the title.
(a non-wt has reg'd jw2022.org)( jw2021.org is presently available, wink-wink).
With the Big A imminent, and money tight, it's surely a fine blessing to see the bruvvers planning 6 years ahead.
first off, i'd like to state that i currently have "privileges" in the congregation and volunteer at bethel on and off throughout the year.
that's as much information as i will currently give about myself.. starting off, i think something big is coming in the form of lawsuits and bad pr.
they seem to be batting down the hatches in preparation for something the last few years and even more so the last few months.
Fair point well made.
The WT is simply carrying on the Bible's track history of grandiose statements that never got fulfilled.
As long as you realise that one day you'll be on your death bed looking back over a life spent waiting for the Big A, like many generations of Bible believers before you, then that's fine.
I'll try to remember to dig out this 2017 nonsense in January 2018!
first off, i'd like to state that i currently have "privileges" in the congregation and volunteer at bethel on and off throughout the year.
that's as much information as i will currently give about myself.. starting off, i think something big is coming in the form of lawsuits and bad pr.
they seem to be batting down the hatches in preparation for something the last few years and even more so the last few months.
There is a push to complete Warwick; WT wants to get out of Kings county ASAP before all hell breaks loose, they want to direct the work from Warwick.
True, they also believed this to be the case in the past, but WT is expecting something big to hit soon by 2017 and they want to be in Warwick when they believe it will.
WT 1915 January 15th p.29 - And now we realize that we stand on the threshold of the Kingdom, and that possibly our next report will not be to Brooklyn, but to Headquarters beyond the veil.
Ooh look! A prophecy! Maybe Warwick is beyond the veil? Wow and they said that....almost 100 years ago. A 100 years of being on the threshold...
hello all, i would like to first say that i am basically questioning my faith in god.
i am not negative towards the wt at all.
so honestly i am to concerned with more ad hominem attacks towards the wt because i still love the organization and the people in it.
Hi questioningmyfaith,
Please watch this and reflect on the statistics within:
at around 4 minutes into the september 2015 video splane said "for the man and the baby to be part of josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during joseph's lifespan.".
this is the lynchpin of the wt argument, that two lives must overlap to be considered the same generation.. let's take an example of twins who are born just a few minutes apart.
obviously, these twins are the same generation as each other.
At around 4 minutes into the September 2015 video Splane said "For the man and the baby to be part of Josephs generation they would have had to have lived at least some time during Joseph's lifespan."
An easy way to debunk the Josepeh idea is to read Genesis 50: 22-23:
22 And Joseph continued to dwell in Egypt, he and the household of his father, and Joseph lived for 110 years. 23 Joseph saw the third generation of Eʹphra·im’s sons,+ also the sons of Maʹchir,+ Ma·nasʹseh’s son. They were born upon Joseph’s knees.
Ephraim was Joseph's son by his wife Asenath.
So Joseph lived for how long? 110 years.
And he saw how many generations in that time? He saw the third generation of Emphriam's sons but you could therefore say he saw 4 (including Emphraim).
Deary me David, Don't ya just hate it when the Bible doesn't support your crap?
guess the overlapping generation concept is difficult for most to comprehend.
david spane does his best to explain it again.
the cutoff date for this generation has now moved to 1992 (was once 1935), the year that fred franz died.
The Generation nonsense is at the beginning.
i need information how the organization teaches members to shun any dealings with those they think are apostates, i am being labeled apostate by uncle crap head.
where is the magazine about "we wish we had the authority to kill apostates like the days of israel but the government does not allow this"?
do you have a list because my lawyer is going before a judge to show that, there is no way we can speak with them superfine's because they view us as the walking dead.
"We are not living today among theocratic nations where such members of our fleshly family relationship could be exterminated for apostasy from God and his theocratic organization . . . "Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God's law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates . . ."
The Watchtower November 15, 1952 page 703
it is all about the bible story, alleged miracles of jesus.
not one miraculously replicated since, so:.
final comment by senior elder: "that we have these powerful miracle of the christ is a guarantee for it to happen in the new system.
just got news from a friend that yesterday a letter was read in their congregation announcing new locations for the regional conventions in london.. the main item was no twickenham in 2015.. their congregation is assigned to excel london (need to confirm since he was not 100% sure).
i will update this when i get more information tonight.. .
Was anyone at the London Excel RC on Friday?
Apparently there was an apostate that got up on the stage. I'm told that the speaker quickly asked everyone to grab their songbooks and start singing.
The idea of 6,000 people grabbing songbooks and singing from whatever page they come across is just hilarious.
Can anyone confirm this insanity?
