Do you think these are “the promised things”?
wizzstick
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"The promised things"
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have you heard about the eye of horus?
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What is the alternative to JW?
by Formerbrother ini mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.
im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?
the the bible is word?
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wizzstick
Firstly the issue:
The 1st prophecy in the scriptures is Genesis 2:17 where God essentially warned the first humans:"if you go independent of Me, it will bring about your demise"
The proof of that is in two parts: the climate crisis is already far along the way to proving that civilisation cannot survive without help, and God's intervention will give proof that He can provide it.
Given that this 1st prophecy far predates the climate crisis, and given that we are rapidly running out of options, is it not reasonable to give a measure of credence in the pairing of the two?
1) There was nothing about going independent of God in Gen 2:17. It talks about eating from a tree and if they did they would die that very day:
But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”
You do two things with that scripture that means you follow the belief systems of other religions. You interpret that scripture to mean something other than what it says. All that verse says that if you eat from this tree then you die. And clearly that verse is untrue as they didn't die that day. There is nothing about going 'independent of God'.
You presumably follow the belief systems of other religions by interpreting that 'day' doesn't mean day as in the 24 hour period of time. Even though there is nothing to suggest that it isn't 24 hours. There is no prophecy here. If it was a prophecy (history written in advance) then it would suggest that God knew that Adam and Eve would eat of the fruit. Which means they were always going to do so. So much for free will!
With no logical reason you then connect the climate crisis to this scripture (not prophecy as explained above). This is a leapt of imagination.
Second is supplemental:
the issue has nothing to do with belief, nor doctrines, nor religion - it is concerned with authority. God had authority over the earth, and Mankind usurped itThis is easily dismissed.
You are (and correct if I'm wrong) suggesting that Adam was the first man. But he wasn't. Humans lived long before c. 4,000 BC. We are related to Neanderthals. This is a genetically different humanoid species to us. Yet it's been recently discovered that about 2-7% of yours and mine DNA (it varies depending on where we originated from) comes from Neanderthals. This is because our ancestors had sex with Neanderthals. You can't actual with genetics. It's simply a fact.
So how do Neanderthals fit into all this? You have a humanoid species on Earth, living for 100,000 years before us. Were they created by God? Why did he let them breed with humans (homo sapiens)? How do they fit into God's 'authority' given they were living independently, hunting animals, long before this time period of 4,000BC? Predating it, to use a word you like.
Reason, therefore, does NOT impel credence.
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Jehovah's Witnesses' Brooklyn tax exemptions totaled $368 million
by OrphanCrow injehovah's witnesses' brooklyn tax exemptions totaled $368 million.
downtown brooklyn partnership ups its pressure on the tax-exempt organization to donate $50 million.
the jehovah’s witnesses have been exempted from paying at least $368 million in taxes on their brooklyn real estate holdings over the last 12 years, according to an analysis by the downtown brooklyn partnership and consulting firm bjh advisers.
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Evolution Hole #1 - Origin of Life
by shadow indisclaimer: my graduate degree is in business, not science so i'm writing as a layman in this field.
yes, i know that someone is going to say that evolution does not encompass this topic and should be sectioned off under abiogenesis.
i'm not trying to argue semantics here but it seems like a case of avoiding an uncomfortable subject.
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wizzstick
This is #1 which implies that another thread might be coming
Try not to screw the next one up at the first hurdle.
Seriously - argue against evolution using empirical evidence, not different subjects.
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Armageddon is coming! New Dates Predicted (satire)
by 00DAD inkudos to jwn roving correspondent sd-7 for his insightful comments in a recent thread.
as a result of his inspired utterance, i received a flash of insight that has allowed me to predict with uncanny accuracy the exact date for armageddon's arrival.
what follows are sd-7's comments and my calculations.
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wizzstick
2016-2017
Did your sky fairy tell you this?
Will you promise not to come back on here after 2017? For shame?
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What is the "sign" of "Christ's Invisible Presence?"
by Fisherman inthe wts teaches, that from 1914 onward, a sign has been evident, which is proof of god's kingdom.
jw profess to see that sign.
a "sign" means evidence from god.
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wizzstick
Not only Jesus but Moses, etc. provided signs for the purpose of convincing with solid evidence -not everyone accepted the evidence, however.
And where is your proof, undeniable evidence that they provided these signs?
If it's merely the Bible then I'm afraid that doesn't count.
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Prediction time: just has i told my wife a month ago, the 144000 is not a litteral number and the GB are the only anointed
by goingthruthemotions inso things have been calm so far...knock on wood!!!
but i was thinking today...a month ago in one of our arguments.
i told her the 144000 was not to considered a literal number.
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wizzstick
they are literally 12000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel
An old idea but a flawed one. The list of the 12 tribes in Revelation is different to the actual list. Rev:7 doesn't list the Tribe of Dan. Instead it lists the half-tribe of Manasseh.
So there's no way it can be literal.
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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
by Heisenberg inthey say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
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wizzstick
You are attempting to measure God with your ruler.
Well duh, who else can we compare God too?
If he falls short of an imperfect human ruler, then there's a serious problem with God. Not us.
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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?
by Heisenberg inthey say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.
i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.
they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?
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wizzstick
In my opinion the bible is written with symbols, metaphors, allegories and other literary devices and one must spend a lifetime studying and reading it.
And millions of people have felt the same, over 2,000 years, and have come up with all sorts of interpretations by the end of their life.
That's not very helpful now is it?
I can't prove but that is what I think.
And many Jews feel the same about the Torah.
And even more Muslims feel the same about the Koran.
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Crisis of Conscience- World Wide Cease & Desist
by Newly Enlightened inhttp://www.commentarypress.com/copyright/.
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https://youtu.be/fdzzl453drq.
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wizzstick
BTW: CESNUR is not a reputable organization to quote from or trust.
Started by the Catholics:
While established in 1988 by scholars who were mostly Roman Catholic, CESNUR has had from its very beginning boards of directors including scholars of a variety of religious persuasions.
'nuff said.