Posts by wizzstick

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what buzz word from the jw's do you hate & why?

by Sabin in

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friends

so my hubby has been on a bit of a roll about the jdubs, we were talking a lot about them & he said the buzz word he hate's the most is "worldly" why?

because he say's "with that one word they have condemned (according to their believes) a person as being worthy of nothing but death.

".

wizzstick

Fine.

Because of the JW's I hate the word fine.

Welcome to this fine meeting.

That was a fine talk wasn't it?

Thank-you for sharing that fine experience.

Ahhhh. I hate the word. Thankfully it's rarely used by normal people.

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The JW Spin - why governments and opposers should let jws handle abusers themselves

by Robo Bobo in

i came across this blog - it is one of the evilest things i've ever read.. http://dismythed.blogspot.com/2016/02/flip-side-news-opposers-want-ex.html.

you might not want to click on it because a) you'll give it more traffic and b) it will make you mad.

in summary it states that since only 11-17% of molesters are repeat offenders, witnesses guilty of abuse should be dealt with inside the congregation as long as they confess.

wizzstick

They have a family and their grown children love them and, though knowing about the person's past, have stated that the person never did anything to them.

Idiot.

So he/she isn't a member of that family. How can they know whether or not their abuser has abused other children which weren't of that family?

The publicity surrounding cases can bring out other examples of abuse that were done in secret. But by covering it up it removes any possibility of others coming forward.

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"The promised things"

by Llamaengineer in

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have you heard about the eye of horus?

wizzstick

Do you think these are “the promised things”?

Pareidolia

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What is the alternative to JW?

by Formerbrother in

i mean this with all due respect, i would like to hear from genuine people who think jw have it wrong and then what is the truth?.

im not talking about silly little quibbles here and there.. is jehovah real?

the the bible is word?

wizzstick

Firstly the issue:
The 1st prophecy in the scriptures is Genesis 2:17 where God essentially warned the first humans:
"if you go independent of Me, it will bring about your demise"
The proof of that is in two parts: the climate crisis is already far along the way to proving that civilisation cannot survive without help, and God's intervention will give proof that He can provide it.
Given that this 1st prophecy far predates the climate crisis, and given that we are rapidly running out of options, is it not reasonable to give a measure of credence in the pairing of the two?

1) There was nothing about going independent of God in Gen 2:17. It talks about eating from a tree and if they did they would die that very day:

But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”

You do two things with that scripture that means you follow the belief systems of other religions. You interpret that scripture to mean something other than what it says. All that verse says that if you eat from this tree then you die. And clearly that verse is untrue as they didn't die that day. There is nothing about going 'independent of God'.

You presumably follow the belief systems of other religions by interpreting that 'day' doesn't mean day as in the 24 hour period of time. Even though there is nothing to suggest that it isn't 24 hours. There is no prophecy here. If it was a prophecy (history written in advance) then it would suggest that God knew that Adam and Eve would eat of the fruit. Which means they were always going to do so. So much for free will!

With no logical reason you then connect the climate crisis to this scripture (not prophecy as explained above). This is a leapt of imagination.

Second is supplemental:
the issue has nothing to do with belief, nor doctrines, nor religion - it is concerned with authority. God had authority over the earth, and Mankind usurped it

This is easily dismissed.

You are (and correct if I'm wrong) suggesting that Adam was the first man. But he wasn't. Humans lived long before c. 4,000 BC. We are related to Neanderthals. This is a genetically different humanoid species to us. Yet it's been recently discovered that about 2-7% of yours and mine DNA (it varies depending on where we originated from) comes from Neanderthals. This is because our ancestors had sex with Neanderthals. You can't actual with genetics. It's simply a fact.

So how do Neanderthals fit into all this? You have a humanoid species on Earth, living for 100,000 years before us. Were they created by God? Why did he let them breed with humans (homo sapiens)? How do they fit into God's 'authority' given they were living independently, hunting animals, long before this time period of 4,000BC? Predating it, to use a word you like.

Reason, therefore, does NOT impel credence.

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Jehovah's Witnesses' Brooklyn tax exemptions totaled $368 million

by OrphanCrow in

jehovah's witnesses' brooklyn tax exemptions totaled $368 million.

downtown brooklyn partnership ups its pressure on the tax-exempt organization to donate $50 million.

the jehovah’s witnesses have been exempted from paying at least $368 million in taxes on their brooklyn real estate holdings over the last 12 years, according to an analysis by the downtown brooklyn partnership and consulting firm bjh advisers.

wizzstick

Watchtower Portfolio Analysis

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Evolution Hole #1 - Origin of Life

by shadow in

disclaimer: my graduate degree is in business, not science so i'm writing as a layman in this field.

yes, i know that someone is going to say that evolution does not encompass this topic and should be sectioned off under abiogenesis.

i'm not trying to argue semantics here but it seems like a case of avoiding an uncomfortable subject.

wizzstick

This is #1 which implies that another thread might be coming

Try not to screw the next one up at the first hurdle.

Seriously - argue against evolution using empirical evidence, not different subjects.

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Armageddon is coming! New Dates Predicted (satire)

by 00DAD in

kudos to jwn roving correspondent sd-7 for his insightful comments in a recent thread.

as a result of his inspired utterance, i received a flash of insight that has allowed me to predict with uncanny accuracy the exact date for armageddon's arrival.

what follows are sd-7's comments and my calculations.

wizzstick

2016-2017

Did your sky fairy tell you this?

Will you promise not to come back on here after 2017? For shame?

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What is the "sign" of "Christ's Invisible Presence?"

by Fisherman in

the wts teaches, that from 1914 onward, a sign has been evident, which is proof of god's kingdom.

jw profess to see that sign.

a "sign" means evidence from god.

wizzstick

Not only Jesus but Moses, etc. provided signs for the purpose of convincing with solid evidence -not everyone accepted the evidence, however.

And where is your proof, undeniable evidence that they provided these signs?

If it's merely the Bible then I'm afraid that doesn't count.

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Prediction time: just has i told my wife a month ago, the 144000 is not a litteral number and the GB are the only anointed

by goingthruthemotions in

so things have been calm so far...knock on wood!!!

but i was thinking today...a month ago in one of our arguments.

i told her the 144000 was not to considered a literal number.

wizzstick

they are literally 12000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel

An old idea but a flawed one. The list of the 12 tribes in Revelation is different to the actual list. Rev:7 doesn't list the Tribe of Dan. Instead it lists the half-tribe of Manasseh.

So there's no way it can be literal.

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Would a loving creator give humans the gift of free will?

by Heisenberg in

they say ignorance is bliss... well, i wish that god did not give adam free will.

i am ok to not have free will if it means i will live forever in perfect paradisiac conditions.it has been explained that free will is a gift from god.

they say 'who would want to live life like a robot?

wizzstick

You are attempting to measure God with your ruler.

Well duh, who else can we compare God too?

If he falls short of an imperfect human ruler, then there's a serious problem with God. Not us.