Posts by wizzstick

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Observations from an Ex-Elder Part 3 - Why not create multiple Adam & Eve's?

by doubtfull1799 in

i saw a post the other day on another forum (think it was reddit) that put forward the idea that god should have created multiple couples, not just adam and ever.

this idea was so simple and brilliantly logical, that i wish i'd thought of it, but i cannot claim credit!

but it really got me thinking of the practical implications and benefits.... if god had simply created multiple couples instead of one, he would in one foul swoop have solved the problem of incest, as well as have prevented 6 thousand years of human tragedy and a ransom sacrifice being needed etc.

wizzstick

I always got the "ransom" part

Interesting - I didn't.

IIRC the ransom was needed because a perfect man was needed to 'buy' back what another perfect man had lost. But...during the WT's sciencey public talks, they talk about how the sun will run out of hydrogen and that God can replenish the sun because of that scripture re the earth will be inhabitated for ever.

Hang on.

We know that suns die. We know that due to the huge distance that light need tos travel these events occured 1,000,000s of years in the past. So sun's dying must be part of God's perfect design, as these events happened before Adam and Eve sinned 6,000+ years ago.

So...if God can suspend his perfect laws for our sun, why couldn't he do the same for Adam or Eve? Or come up with a better plan to resolve the issue that this enormously painful one that involves suffering across human and animal life for 6,000 years and counting?

Our Sun's death can be stopped to fulfil his prophecy. Pity he couldn't have been more pragmatic with humans!

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Lots Of Whining And Complaining About Us JW's

by Deaconblues1914 in

in reading these posts, it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the wt.

society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank.

jehovah has indeed blessed us.

wizzstick

I would hate to be you when the G.T. breaks out.

I'll have a G&T thanks!

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Lots Of Whining And Complaining About Us JW's

by Deaconblues1914 in

in reading these posts, it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the wt.

society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank.

jehovah has indeed blessed us.

wizzstick

And what is your truth?

Logic and reason works for me!

Are any of you preaching the Good News of the Kingdom?

The JW version of the Good news of the Kingdom is a man made fantasy. It requires people to believe in a made-up version of history. It's nonsense!

This is your truth. This is YOUR RELIGION!

You clearly don't understand what a religion is. A website isn't a religion.

Jesus will close the door soon folks.

JW's have a long history, 140 years alomost, of false predictions and pointless speculations. They will continue to do so whilst there are enough gullible people to follow them. Christians have believed for almost 2,000 years that the 'end' is close. Probably because they were told in the first century that some of them wouldn't taste death. But they all did. All Christians and all JW's age and die. Then the next generation wave the flag and say "it will be me, it will be me!" - and it never is.

You think this world will get any better?

Yes! It is getting better. Think about the last 2,000 years. When would you rather be alive? When did you get better healthcare, education, jobs, technology etc. than today?

It's getting worser and worser very fast.

The world is getting better and better. Do your OWN research away from the biased WT publications and you will see this for yourself.

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How Old Was Eve When She Was Tempted?

by berrygerry in

has this question ever been answered by wt or biblical apologetic?.

if near the beginning of her creation, would she not have had the effective development of a a toddler or even a baby?.

if so, would you sentence a toddler or a baby to death for grabbing an appealing candy from a bowl?.

wizzstick

Supposedly Adam lived 30 years before Eve was created (WTS doctrine).

ooh - interesting Blondie.

Do you know the reference by any chance?

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My Introduction - An ex-elder's story of waking up later in life.

by doubtfull1799 in

background:.

my parents got the “truth” while i was in primary school.

i was baptised at 14. i loved school and was extremely studious.

wizzstick

Firstly - congratuations!

It's incredibly hard to do what you've done. It might be tough now but as the years go by you'll only wish you did it earlier.

You said:

I plan to formally disassociate from the Watchtower Society at some point

Don't.

That means you'll be playing by their rules. They have no authority over you and some in the KH might start putting pressure on your wife to think about her 'spiritual welfare'.

Given that being d'fed ultimately means the same thing carry on as you are and hopefully in time your wife will wake up.

On a general note - do you see any change amongst the JW's in terms of 'waking up'. Is there growing disaffection or do they still believe as before?

Well done again - welcome to the real world.

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Violent Games/Movie

by Saethydd in

all through my childhood, i was told about the evils of violence (and magic) in entertainment, i doubt i could count the number of movies and video games i wasn't allowed to enjoy for that very reason.

i did always watch movies and play video games with a certain amount of violence in them, but i was careful to keep it at the teen/pg-13 rating.. in the last year or so though i've started trying out games like skyrim, fallout 3, and thief.

(since i still live with my parents i'm careful about where and when i play them.

wizzstick

That can not be denied in intellectual honesty.

Banning guns seems to be a simple idea.

Here in the UK we play violent games and have no school shootings. We did have one school shooting over 20 years ago and subsequently banned hand guns.

It's nice living like this.

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What did President Trump say about Sweden?

by kpop in

this you will never see on the mainstream media.

before you comment watch the whole video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqaigeqxqgi.

wizzstick

Swedish article on Fox news

Fox News asserted a number of 160,000 asylum seekers in Sweden for 2016 though which were down to 29,000 in 2016 after 163,000 in 2015

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AI on the cusp of tremendous breakthroughs

by azor in

jw
friends

what does this mean for us as individuals and our civilization?

harris, kurzweil, and musk among others have some interesting thoughts on the subject.

as do shows like westworld.

wizzstick

I attended a lecture 2 weeks ago on this topic and it was pretty clear that our world is about to change again:

'90s - internet

'00's - tablets/broadband

'10's - smartphones/mobile internet

'20s - AI

It's hard to say what is exactly the impact will be. But it will be profound. The guy pointed out this story and said, why tell your kids to train to be lawyers? Why get your kids to train to be teachers?

So yes - the sci-fi vision of Terminator robots will likely not happen, but the job market will go through a collosal change over the next 10 years.

Scary/exciting times!

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Has anyone else seen this video on JW Broadcasting?

by NikL in

jw
friends

so i was checking out the website to see what the february broadcast was all about before i watched it with my jw wife.. on the front page was this video.... https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodbible/pub-jwbai_201607_1_video.

i watched it and pretended i had never been a jw.. if you pretend you don't understand their particular language it makes for a interesting (if not vague) watch.. btw i've seen several of the actors before.

jw version of movie stars?

wizzstick

Just vomit inducing. It's all about guilt.

And what about that poor girl? Anything about her feelings? No she's not worthy of our concern. She's a worldly person.

What is clear is how the video makes The Equation of Power:

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Genesis Lifetimes and Numerology

by schnell in

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friends

out of morbid curiosity, i would like to here reduce the digits of the lifetimes stated in genesis chapter 5. it is clear that no human being has ever lived that long, and perhaps there is some numerological meaning to these numbers rather than literal history.

7 after he became the father of enosh, seth lived 807 years and had other sons and daughters.

10 after he became the father of kenan, enosh lived 815 years and had other sons and daughters.

wizzstick

It is made up.

It's Numberwang!

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