Posts by COMF

43

You make me laugh and you break my heart.

by seven006 in

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shelby, .

i will say the same thing to you as i said to shelby.

i read your posts when they are a flower and i think you are quite a woman and you posses so much love and understanding.

COMF

Lilacs:

I look at Farkel and Comf as the fatherly types and dare not speak against their wisdom. I have learned a great deal from them.

Aw, aren't you sweet! Your words mark a milestone for me. This is the first time in my life that an adult has ever described me as "fatherly." Now the last vestiges of age self-delusion have been dispersed. ;)

My daughter (ROFL!), you mustn't be shy of speaking out against "our wisdom" if it doesn't sit well with you. Don't think that your own perception must of necessity be wrong and ours right any time they don't match. If you learn only one thing from me, I hope it will be to believe in yourself and rely on yourself (assuming you haven't already got that one nailed, which you may well have). The things we learn from others, we add to our own store of inner wealth, and so they become ours now, and no longer someone else's. And if we live by them, it is because we believe they are right; not because the person we learned them from believes they are right.

(Stepping down off podium now..)

Dave:

There is one thing that will defuse this whole situation but I don't see it happening. That is for both you and Shelby to apologize to each other.

I expect you're right: it won't be happening.

I don't know how far back your dislike for each other goes but it really doesn't matter.

We need to clarify this point, Dave: I don't dislike Shelby. I believe that if she got her identity crisis under control she would be a formidable addition to the discussions on the board, as well as a friend anyone would be glad to have in their group. It's the drama-queen posturing and the evident assumption that intelligent, mature adults will automatically play along, that sparks my acerbity. It's kind of like going out on the town with a group of friends, and having one of them act like a dog, lolling his tongue and barking and occasionally walking on all fours. How quickly would such playacting get old? And how pathetic would he look if, when you asked him to please act his age, he got mad about it and started saying you only talk that way because you're inherently a cat and are anathema to dogs?

I am thankful I am pretty much over the majority of my anger with the JW's and I have just come to accept my lot in life and have tried to move on. You must not be at that point in your life yet

Shelby's posturing is, as Randy pointed out, a symptom of something badly off-kilter in there; and although I'm sorry for her that she can't seem to cope with reality well enough to come on out from behind the facade, I won't join in the encouraging and enabling of such ultimately self-damaging behavior. I actively express the fact that I do not accept her posturing as reality. You apparently are mistaking that expression for anger. Well, take it how you will.

I do think the graphic you posted about Prisca was way out of line and very hurtful

Seriously? Odd... I thought it was quite the compliment. Why would I ask for pictorial confirmation if it was supposed to be ugly? R. Crumb's women are the epitomy of sensuality, to me. Like Freddy King says, "I love a big-leg woman." But then, I've never understood the fascination with anorexic/bulemic types, anyway. The body size I find most attractive (given that the womanly shape is still there) is somewhere between 12 and 18. And I do love a fine big butt. Anyone who took the pictures any other way was mistaken. They were intended to serve as a tension-reliever, a little flirtatious comedy in the midst of a tense situation.

Anyway, Dave, I'm glad you posted. I don't recall seeing you take off on this long a discourse about something this serious before. Usually when I see you, you're just busy brushing the ladies off of you. It's good to have a solid look at how your cogs are meshing, in there. Thanks!

COMF

--> http://www.scarletmoon.com/fred/sounds/mp3s/Baby_Got_Back.mp3

You can do side bends or sit-ups, but please don't lose that butt
Some brothers wanna play that hard role
and tell you that the butt need to go
So they toss it and leave it
And I pull up quick to retrieve it
So Cosmo says you're fat
Well I ain't down with that
Cuz your waist is small and your curves are kickin'

26

Well, I have NEVER....

by AGuest in

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in all my almost 42 years... received so much attention... good and bad.

never, i promise you.

and truly... all ya'll... i am neither 'worthy'... nor 'deserving' of it... good... or bad.. have you all noticed just how many times the name "shelby" has been used in the past, say 24 hours?

COMF

Fixin' To Die Rag was an anthem in my little hometown. We acid-head teens all had it memorized verbatim.

Trouble was, it was too close to reality to be funny. A couple of the guys in my group had older brothers come home in a box.

COMF

43

You make me laugh and you break my heart.

by seven006 in

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shelby, .

i will say the same thing to you as i said to shelby.

i read your posts when they are a flower and i think you are quite a woman and you posses so much love and understanding.

COMF

Hi, Dave, and thanks for this well-expressed and thought-provoking post.

What are you fighting about, Kent and Comf, hate the way Shelby calls herself a slave of Christ?

Dave, my reason for doing what I did is stated quite plainly in my posts.

Is it all that important? Does it effect your life so much that you need to expose her for being not exactly who she thinks she is?

When she involves my integrity in it by falsely calling me a liar in front of people who weren't there to witness the facts, who don't know one way or the other: yes, Dave, it is important, to me.

What have you accomplished?

The people who didn't know which one of us was telling the truth now know.

Is she going to change who she is in the slightest because of your post?

Nope, not in the slightest. I knew that when I started. It wasn't about getting her to change. It was about who was a liar.

However, I appreciate the points you make here. The flavor of the board has sickened me lately. The trouble with that is, I don't see any hope for change. When your only instrument of change is words, and when words of wisdom are ridiculed and their speaker taunted by so many on the board, there is little hope of effecting that change. When the only means of maintaining a respectful, considerate atmosphere is through the cooperation of each one here, and when an increasing number of individuals cast respect for and consideraton of others aside, there is little hope of regaining that type of atmosphere.

So I don't feel moved to try; the odds are overwhelming. I mostly just feel a compulsion to move on to other things.

Thanks for speaking your mind about this.

COMF

43

Goodbye, and Thanks For All the Fish......

by Prisca in

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dear all,.

it is with much regret that i have decided to leave jw.com.

it is not a decision i have made lightly, in fact i had been thinking about it for many weeks now.. i am leaving because i cannot be a part of a forum that condones abuse and deliberate offensiveness towards other posters.

COMF

Hope ya come back, hon.

COMF

27

Where are we from.....

by BobsGirl in

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i know that this has been done before, but i am new to the board and i would like to get an idea of where everyone is located.

as an aside .... plesantries or animosities, moderators or no, i am grateful to have this board.

bobsgirl

COMF

I am a native Texas horny toad from big D.

6

That Group Never Existed!

by COMF in

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shelby said in this post --> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=11080&site=3.

2. thus, i went back using the forum 'guest' default (because i thought that was what he meant).

after some time, uncle bruce started referring to me was lwf, lifesbeersfree, etc., etc., and he and others assumed i had a 'church'... or 'group' that called ourselves "lifeswaterfree", because we all issued the same invitation.. shelby said, on h2o:.

COMF

Shelby said in this post --> http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=11080&site=3

2. Thus, I went back using the forum 'guest' default (because I THOUGHT that was what he meant). After some time, Uncle Bruce started referring to me was LWF, LifesBeersFree, etc., etc., and he and others ASSUMED I had a 'church'... or 'group' that called ourselves "LifesWaterFree", because we all issued the same INVITATION.

Shelby said, on H2O:

Posted by LifesWaterFree [Guest] on April 08, 2000 at 22:44:03 {LArUnf46hQ/CPYT8orz2ni6QXcPL8M}:

Verbosity snipped

P.S. - BTW, "Guest" is the "name" the page gave us. If there is another name by which we are to post, we are unaware of it. We try to be upfront with our moniker "LifesWaterFree" and see no need to point further attention to ourselves.

28

MAXIMUS - Don't Ever leave

by hawkaw in

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max,.

i just read another thread where someone took a "shot" at you with the f__k word etc.. go hug your wife and remember what happens in october with your family.. you may meet 10 idiots on this board but i assure you, you will help save at least one life and another one's freedom.. hawk

COMF

Ba'y plea' don' go

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahah!

Alvin Lee! Ten Years After! Kewl!

COMF

PS: Max...

Well, you know.

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LET'S MAKE A LITTLE WAGER

by You Know in

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perhaps you recall the instance in the bible where samson made a wager with the philistines that they couldnt guess his riddle.

as it turned out they wheedled the answer out of him by his fiancee, but the point is that they had a wager.

since the underlying assumption of the apostasy is that we are not living in the last days of this system of things, and that this world is not facing anything remotely like the biblical apocalypse, at least not any time soon, in the spirit of such antagonism, i would like to propose a similar wager.

COMF

I think coming from a small country, you come to realise just how big the world actually is.

You know what's going on in England, Ireland, Scotland, Spain, France, The Netherlands, Sweden, Norway, and Italy.

We know what's going on in California, Nevada, Utah, Oregon, New Mexico, Kansas, Missouri, Alabama, and New York.

Call them countries; call them states; whatever. The area is about the same.

COMF

9

In-your-face religion

by SlayerLayer in

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a fews days ago, i met this elderly jewish man, with such a personaltity.

he said that he was 8 years old when he was in the concentration camp.

his stories amazed me.. anyway, as it turns out, he is now an atheist.

COMF

For believers, their beliefs are the lens through which they see everything. Those beliefs are their hope, their anchor, and their solace in hard times. Their beliefs may even protect them from unacknowledged fears. Nothing will be gained by trying to prove them wrong except their undying disagreement and rancor.

Good point, well expressed.

If we always react with quiet fury or silent rage, we’re handing over control of our behavior and emotions to the religionists.

Yea, verily!

As an occasional attender of Alcoholics Anonymous meetings (where it's all about a higher power, and they close by holding hands and reciting the Lord's Prayer), I have a great deal of experience with sharing in, or at least calmly tolerating, religious rituals in which I don't put faith. They're really quite harmless. There have been times when i expressed my personal views (which is, theoretically, what you're supposed to do at an AA meeting) only to be "refuted" by a visibly upset speaker as soon as I was finished. Nowadays I don't even share my views much at AA meetings (nor do I attend much), because it's too upsetting to those for whom "those beliefs are their hope, their anchor, and their solace in hard times." Who am I to challenge a belief system which is working for them, at least for today?

A succinct, yet inspiring expression of this "isn't that interesting" point of view is tucked quietly away in the words of an obscure song by Dire Straits. The song is called, "Follow Me Home" and is on their "Communique" album.

--> http://www.scarletmoon.com/fred/sounds/mp3s/Follow_Me_Home.mp3

In this song, the narrator doesn't give the listener any history or explanation; he simply takes a verbal snapshot of a moment in time. We are left to fill in the missing pieces to understand where he is, and what's happening. The casual listener might never grasp what the song is about.

Oh well the sun go down
Celebration in the town tonight
All day long they've been slaughtering upon the stone

Share out the meat
Yeah, you really like to eat
Come on, woman, come
Follow me home

Well, the priest he cries
Virgin ascending to the skies tonight
All day long I pass my time alone

And when the church bell rung
I stayed out on the tower
In the dying sun
Now come on, woman, come
Follow me home

Well I don't need no priest
But I love all of the people
Yes I share the feast
Drink up the wine
Yes and the song in my bones

I know the way
I can see by the moonlight
Clear as the day
Come on, woman, come
Follow me home

The sound of waves crashing on the beach, at the beginning of the song, suggest a polynesian island setting (otherwise, I might have gone with an Aztec or Inca scene). The islanders are holding a celebration of some sort, with feasting and music. There is a church, with a bell tower. There is also a priest; but apparently the religion is one of those crossovers which mix some Catholicism with some paganism, because there is going to be a virgin sacrifice after dark.

The speaker is not a member of the village, or of the religion; he's a visitor. And yet he takes part in the festivities with no qualms; in fact, he has quite a good time, drinking and feeling warm with "the song in my bones."

And when it comes time for the sacrifice, who's hiding in the bell tower? And, who is the woman to whom he says, "Come, follow me home?"

The part of the song I'm referring to is in these lines:

Well I don't need no priest
But I love all of the people
Yes I share the feast
Drink up the wine
Yes and the song in my bones

Just as we don't need a priest to pray for us at public activities. And yet we can take part and enjoy. There's no need for anger or intimidation at a "foreign" religion's presence. In fact, from our vantagepoint as uninvolved onlookers, we may be able to see how to turn events to our favor (and that of others... sacrificial victims, for example), even as the singer does.

COMF

P.S.

To my knowledge, she has never had one mean thing to say about anyone, including the people that ridicule her the most.

You are quite wrong about this.

13

The DAY AFTER [Dateline]

by biblexaminer in

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what will happen the day after?.

i have a recent personal experience from "field service" that may shed a little light on this subject.. first, i do believe that many of my "bros and sises" will see this.

they are all dateline watchers, and just knowing their personalities, if they are able, they will watch.. will they talk about it amongst themselves?

COMF

From the platforms, I expect that there will be further warnings against "apostate" literature and this will be expanded to include televised information.

Excellent advertising, and free, too! What better way to get the word about the program out to the JW masses!

COMF

"Not unless fired upon, suh... not unless fired upon."