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  A letter To My Friend

  by Garrett in

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  hey guys,.

  so i've written up a letter to my friend that i plan on sending him to try to wake him up.

  he's a very sensible man who i care deeply for.

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  M*A*S*H

  Print the letter, sign it, address it. Then put it in your desk drawer for at least one month. If you still want to send it then, go ahead.

  IMHO sending this letter will drive you friend further into the Borg mind. You are giving them 'something to do', a righteous call to action, a test, an opportunity for him to demonstrate his faith. Your letter will probably be passed direct to the elders and your friend will get that warm fuzzy feeling of 'doing the right thing'. It may well strengthen their faith, avoiding a nasty apostate attempting to tempt them away is no mean feat!

  The advice to perhaps meet and have a coffee would be better. Don't bring up any JW related issues until they ask and then only answer the questions they asked without launching into a tirade!
  
  
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  WT is trying to scare off memorial partakers

  by cookiemaster in

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  i don't know how many of you still participate in the sunday wt study, but i unfortunately still do.

  even though i was asleep half of the time, i did notice something i thought i should share with the rest, in case you haven't noticed.

  a lot of the paragraphs were worded strongly against partaking and used clear language of intimidation and discouragement toward anyone thinking of partaking.

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  I think if I were on the GB I would have an official anointed registration scheme, probably with a cost attached... those swanky retirement homes don't build themselves you know.
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  Skills Gap

  by M*A*S*H in

  1. watchtower
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  the jws have now been discouraging higher education and critical thinking for a long time.

  we have all seen the 'dumbing down' of the wt literature.

  on a personal level i have seen many of the perceivably intelligent younger members of congregations leave.

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  Sadly, having thought on this somewhat, I think that JWs may become increasingly difficult to de-convert. If they do not have the skills to examine doctrine, explore religious ideas and delve in-depth into their own religion, what hope do we have of asking questions that will make them question anything as they do not know anything in the first place?
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  Is anything holy?

  by Half banana in

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  is anything holy?.

  i would maintain that holiness can only come from the attitude of people ascribing something as holy.

  holiness never comes from the "holy" object, spirit or humans described as being holy..

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  Skills Gap

  by M*A*S*H in

  1. watchtower
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  the jws have now been discouraging higher education and critical thinking for a long time.

  we have all seen the 'dumbing down' of the wt literature.

  on a personal level i have seen many of the perceivably intelligent younger members of congregations leave.

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  I think that the religion's conversation rate, which is already terrible in terms of man hours, can only suffer as the new stock of JWs are 'dumbing down'. This dumbing down will become self perpetuating as they are now highly unlikely to attract new blood from the society's intelligentsia (or even those that got through college).
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  Skills Gap

  by M*A*S*H in

  1. watchtower
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  the jws have now been discouraging higher education and critical thinking for a long time.

  we have all seen the 'dumbing down' of the wt literature.

  on a personal level i have seen many of the perceivably intelligent younger members of congregations leave.

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  joe134cd: The fact that it is easy to find out about JW culture is important as highlighted in your post. This is why I get concerned by a ever increasing pervasive idea taught and practised in schools, the press and increasingly in the work place - the idea of 'respect'. I do have a big problem when we are asked to 'show respect' for ideas or philosophies that do not deserve it. IMHO it's important that the TTATT especially not be tainted by the faux respect we are all asked to show.
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  Skills Gap

  by M*A*S*H in

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  the jws have now been discouraging higher education and critical thinking for a long time.

  we have all seen the 'dumbing down' of the wt literature.

  on a personal level i have seen many of the perceivably intelligent younger members of congregations leave.

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  In my experience many of the congregation elders where I grew up did come across as being quite intelligent. We had a journalist, dentist, logistics expert, civil servant, engineer and even some of the other less qualified elders were pretty accomplished public speakers with a very good knowledge of the NWT. Maybe this was an exception to the rule!
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  Skills Gap

  by M*A*S*H in

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  the jws have now been discouraging higher education and critical thinking for a long time.

  we have all seen the 'dumbing down' of the wt literature.

  on a personal level i have seen many of the perceivably intelligent younger members of congregations leave.

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  The JWs have now been discouraging higher education and critical thinking for a long time. We have all seen the 'dumbing down' of the WT literature. On a personal level I have seen many of the perceivably intelligent younger members of congregations leave. Pursuing a decent career is frowned upon.

  Studies have show the low economic status of JWs... it seems the jokes about "window washers" could be accurate (eg. http://users.adam.com.au/bstett/JwSocioeconomic86.htm)

  It seems to me that such a large organisation needs many highly skilled and very intelligent people to survive. Perhaps it will be this ever increasing skill gap that leads to the downfall of the WTBS?

  Increasingly when I meet the odd witness out and about they seem almost incapable of holding a sensible discussion, often do not know much about current doctrine, much less able to understand views counter to their own (especially from an atheist perspective). Without attempting to create a flame war... IMHO the older generation (in the traditional sense, not WT current light) just seem more intelligent and in my experience the younger JW's seem often to be a little slow? (Apologies for the wide sweeping generalisation).

  I would say the knowledge of the average member in the 90's when I was a teenager was greater. Would people agree with that?

  Surely there will come a point where the WTBS will need to use more and more 'worldy' organisations for support? Copy writers, solicitors, architects, logistics experts, etc... etc... do we have any evidence for this?
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  What is the basis for authority for the governing body?

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a word to jehovahs witnesses: what is the basis for the authority the seven members of the governing body can claim in controlling the lives of eight million followers?

  the organisation they represent has never got one useful piece of information correct in one hundred and thirty five years... so why should they be believed?.

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  I would expect the FDS just directly asked big G if they have the authority?

  Exodus 28:30, “Also put the Urim and the Thummin in the breastpiece, so they may be over Aaron’s heart whenever he enters the presence of the Lord. Thus Aaron will always bear the means of making decisions for the Israelites over his heart before the Lord.”
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  Cancer healing—using emotions

  by abiather in

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  [i have some posting problems from my computerreply portion gets hung, hence giving it here].

  when i posted the cancer healingusing emotions, it is given as just a link with no recommendation, nor with any comments from me.

  it is not presented as a sure cure for the cancer-patient.

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  M*A*S*H

  Stop making excuses.

  Your recommendation and comment was the topic title "Cancer healing—using emotions (watch this video)" and you should take responsibility for that rather than for the shame faced prancing around you are engaged in now.