I think most of Prologos theories are explained in the 1864 paper published by Pierre-Jules Hetzel. 'Journey to the Center of the Earth', the paper was written by Professor Jules Verne, a specialist in Earthybibliogravitationynessosology.
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the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.
by Crazyguy inmy question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.
also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .
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the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.
by Crazyguy inmy question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.
also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .
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Err... I do not think I was not missing the point!? I was suggesting further to your previous refutations you could add the 'pressure' and 'light' problem into the mix - both add further evidential weight to the argument being false.
I was not attempting to suggest your efforts are not worthwhile, only that such arguements are 'ultimately' pointless as a believer can quite simply take a step back to god when the evidence all points against them (almost exactly as DATA-DOG suggested). The fight is certainly worthwhile... but still!
So, personally I love to see people such as yourself take the time to evidentially prove woo wrong. However, I am not sure I missed the point entirely?
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stupid elder
by goingthruthemotions inas you all know i am just going thru the motions.
well today during the brain washing session.
one stupid elder made the comment of.....an i quote "the jw.org website is the most visited website in the world!
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JW.Borg is the most visited site - it's just that Satan unvisits the site each time a worldly person clicks on it. Don't you guys know there's a war on?
2 Corinthians 4:4
In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
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the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.
by Crazyguy inmy question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.
also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .
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Vivian, have you tried to calculate the pressure applied in the atmosphere by a crap load of water in the canopy? Also how much light would penatrate the canopy given its estimated volume? Ultimately pointless, it's a bit like taking the time to calculate the weight of the pink light reflected by the Invisible Pink Unicorn or the volume of the FSM's left ball.
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Glory of creation is still untouched!
by Pinku inaccording to plato, the universe thrives on its own, dies and gets rebornall on its own and within itself.
the wise symbolized this concept in ouroboros, a serpent eating its own tail.
[even more wonderful is the marvel called a fruit-bearing treeit does not even eat its own fruit, but simply subsists on mostly what we may consider as dirt/refuse; and trees collectively perform yet another marvel of photosynthesis that make use of our wastes and give us oxygen, food, water, shelter, fiber..........................................[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/opinion/to-save-the-planet-dont-plant-trees.html?_r=0].
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Pinku, who exactly was your professor? Dumbledore? In my experience educators teach their pupils to be critical of everything... prove the good and ignore the unfounded.
Because man has been given the ability to become gods (to progress indefinitely) or demons (to lead lives of destruction). He never uses messengers or books, but has left the teaching to the mother Nature.
If god does not give revelations to mankind how do you know the above? Guess work? How do you know god doesn't use books, because presumably you have no way of knowing that?
'Mother Nature' is one of the cruellest, most unforgiving, irreverent teachers one could invent - what lessons is this proposed god of yours attempting to teach?
If you attempt to answer my last question, I expect people will just ask... well how do you know as your god does not reveal anything to you?
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Personally I find that terrifying.
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the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.
by Crazyguy inmy question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.
also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .
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What I want to know is, did rainbows exist before the flood?
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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Vivian. I am getting into this now...
Firstly I would like to support my argument by pointing out that you probably hate god and this is why you probably do not understand.
We also have the words of Egyptian, Babylonian, Greek, Roman, Hindu, Islam Zoroastrian, Semitic and other religions from thousands of years ago. Are those also here because of divine intervention?
If you managed to take time from your sinful life to think about things more clearly, you would probably agree that the Egyptian, Babylonian, Greek, Roman, Hinduism (possibly), Zoroastrian have little influence in today's modern world and are not understood by us good Christians . Islam and Semitic religions are Abrahamic religions and covered by the prophecy.
My counter-argument here is that what special knowledge is required? Lots of people say things will last forever. Religions say that all the time. Why is it special that, out of all of those claims, one happened to maybe be right (since we can't ever prove it came true)?
That kind of demonic baby eating logic demonstrates how disingenuous you are; basically you have just made it clear you would not accept any prophecy as being provable. If I predicted an asteroid will hit earth tomorrow - and one did - even if I could demonstrate this could be unknowable by science you could just brush it off saying "Well people are predicting asteroid impacts all the time, you just got lucky".
You ask what special knowledge is required. I could write an endless list of the journey of the Abrahamic religions and claim "that" is the knowledge required to make the claim. I could pick one thing - the special knowledge that Constantine the Great would convert and help the religion on its way.
If you are soooooo smart why don't you try and write a book that will still be around in 2000 years - case closed. You are so close minded.
Right I'm off to pray for some sick people... saves actually doing anything.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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I do agree it is impossible to say that this prophecy has been fulfilled in the best sense.
I understand your argumentation with regards;
To illistrate [sic] : I will go on record, right here, right now in predicting that this post will endure forever.
However, if in two thousand years a worldwide religion had spread based upon your post made on a backwater internet forum, I am sure some may start to claim divine inspiration on your behalf.
From my perspective, it seems the writers of the bible were essentially claiming their words would last forever. These books are some of humankind's first moral teachings, stories, philosophy, etc.. written down either created or borrowed from oral tradition. The claim they would endure into the world we know today and have the influence they do is quite remarkable; evidence for some of divine intervention, evidence of the power of memes for others, for me... suggestive that despite all our advances the human mind still lingers closely to that of our forebears that first walked upright.
Again, I do understand that the prophecy does not fit exactly into the crtieria required. However, I think it could hit the 'special' knowledge requirement - there were many religious views around at the time, who could have known that this tiny religion would grow to dominate the western world and still be going strong in 2014!? I do understand your point re the quote above - but I am playing advocate.
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Biblical Prohecies That Came True?
by Viviane inrecently there have been several claims made regarding prophecies that came true.
i've not personally seen a prophecy that i would consider as having come true.
i would consider the following as the requirements to say something is a prophecy and evaluate whether or not it came true:.
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It seems I am now playing devils advocate for a (kind of) biblical prophecy - how have I got myself into this mess?
To start as any good apologist should I would like to point out, you failed to ackowledge any merit in my post and just flippantly brushed it off without consideration almost as if you are not really interested in exploring the possibilities, it seems you are just baiting to beat down posters.
You have slightly shifted the burden of proof with your question. If there is a prophecy that god's word is enduring, just because there are potentially false versions of biblical texts, if just one true version remains the prophecy would be still on track. Also the "covenant" both new and old, depending on your theological leanings are well understood and could be said to be enduring. As an atheist I can honestly say I have an understanding of the "His covenant" such as it is laid out in the bible (which ever version) - it has so far proved enduring.