Posts by SimonSays

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Did judge Rutherford piss off Hitler

by greenhornet in

the jws at the time in germany where considered part of the aryan race, (since they were not jews).

then things changed for the jws after rutherford mailed a letter to hitler bragging about jehovahs kingdom on earth.. so can we add this to the bloodshed that that the watchtower corp is responsible for?.

SimonSays

No, no. If they’re going after the truth, they need to understand what was going on with religion throughout the globe at that time.

The focus on Bible Students and Jehovah’s Witnesses is just an underline niche compared to other religions and it’s time people here begin to understand, if they’re going to have a political debate that this 2 factions didn’t have? Then, they also need to understand the atrocities other religions had by condemning Students and Witnesses. The conversation here has not even scratched the surface. Perhaps someone in Rome can convince the Vatican to open up their book vaults to research the history correctly. I have already mentioned it once.

Will they ever admit that some church fathers pointed out bible students and other religious factions in order to keep the Gestapo happy with the Vatican?

Find someone who was there like I did, get first hand experiences from people who lived the horrors. I wouldn’t give 2 cents on what James Peton, or Raymond Franz side.

They need to understand that while it seems funny for people here to trash talk an organization, governments like Russia, and that crazy dictator Putin gets fed this nonsense, and what happens, do Witnesses get shutdown, NO they get imprisoned, retaliated and killed. The differences in persecution of Jehovah’s Witnesses elsewhere might not necessarily come from the Vatican but through the Orthodox Church.

I would suggest book writers here, at the very least be honest, nothing more. Generating controversy doesn’t help your cause of attempting to get to the truth you seek. Just remember, Jehovah’s Witnesses persecution continues, and will continue to the very end.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican_City_in_World_War_II

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_Church_and_Nazi_Germany_during_World_War_II

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vatican/esp_vatican55.htm

http://serbianna.com/analysis/archives/1182

http://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/07/opinion/l-why-the-vatican-kept-silent-on-nazi-atrocities-378789.html

http://hitlernews.cloudworth.com/secret-history-of-vatican-and-hitleryouth-pope.php

http://www.fatherfeeney.org/point/52-mar.html

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How much sediment would have been moved in Noah's flood?

by Zoos in

i flew over this crate yesterday on my return home from las vegas.. .

they say this crater was created by an asteroid about 50,000 years ago.

then about 6000 years ago, presumably, god wiped out all life on earth with a global flood.. how much sediment would have been moved around during that flood.

SimonSays

That's funny!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Did judge Rutherford piss off Hitler

by greenhornet in

the jws at the time in germany where considered part of the aryan race, (since they were not jews).

then things changed for the jws after rutherford mailed a letter to hitler bragging about jehovahs kingdom on earth.. so can we add this to the bloodshed that that the watchtower corp is responsible for?.

SimonSays

Yes isn’t it hilarious how people here twist the truth around to benefit their theory. I hope no active Witnesses buy into subversiveness. If you ever bother to research the true Facts?

Instead of relying on Joke with Facts, and other propaganda sites, you’ll find the underline intent the Catholic Church and other Religious people manifested to question Rutherford’s letter to The Reich and the framework and position Jehovah’s Witnesses held with Party affiliations and government, was to redirect the focus of allegiance from them to the Reich, to the Witnesses.

So to some extent political insertion by opposing Christians would be correct for the Vatican and others. Can you say by the actions of other religions, Witnesses died needlessly, sure you can. If you have a copy of the letter, read it through again.

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Did judge Rutherford piss off Hitler

by greenhornet in

the jws at the time in germany where considered part of the aryan race, (since they were not jews).

then things changed for the jws after rutherford mailed a letter to hitler bragging about jehovahs kingdom on earth.. so can we add this to the bloodshed that that the watchtower corp is responsible for?.

SimonSays

Once again how do you resolve the presumptuous questions that are marred with inaccuracies.

http://www.agsconsulting.com/articles/zionists.htm

This site has misleading statements with no perception on what was going on in that region in the 1910’s, 1920’s 1930’s, 1940’s.

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/mcmahon.htm

http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/balfour_declaration_of_1917.htm

http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/ht/d/ContentDetails/i/2963

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1920_Nebi_Musa_riots

http://www.danielpipes.org/8025/the-year-the-arabs-discovered-palestine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandatory_Palestine

Etc. You cannot consider C.T. Russell’s motive much less that of Rutherford’s without researching ALL the tumultuous times they were in. You are only concentrating in Hitler’s regime and the similarities it had supposedly by the WTS. No such recorded influence exists. You’re undermining modern perception with yesterday’s events.

How did Russell perceive the unjust way The Jewish people were having, did that make him a Zionist, NO. He was not calling for flight, money grabbing or criminal intent as you people like to believe. He understood their dilemma. he had firsthand knowledge how it felt to be mistreated, condemned by a bunch of unethical preachers, and governments that ultimately sent some of them to prison on a religious whim. You people seem to forget Bible Students, And Jehovah’s Witnesses have been front and center to prosecution, simply understand this site to find the meaning.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Nations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League _of_Nations_mandate

http://www.mythsandfacts.org/conflict/mandate_for_palestine/mandate_for_palestine.htm

So your representation of The Bible Students and Jehovah’s Witnesses would be false. Your presuming to

know the intentions and mindset of people without complete research.

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Is it possible that you were raised in a false religion?

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

do you believe in islam?

there are 1.6 billion muslims.

do you accept the pope as gods representative on earth?

SimonSays

I understand, moving on!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Is it possible that you were raised in a false religion?

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

do you believe in islam?

there are 1.6 billion muslims.

do you accept the pope as gods representative on earth?

SimonSays

Thus suggesting I have uniformity with religion. My theological consensus comes from understanding scripture. The value you place on man then becomes irrelevant. The suggestion of intermingling man with God is just disingenuous. Perhaps separating your thoughts would clarify the underline parable given by Jesus through Peter in 1 Peter 2:16. Thus coming in line with what is mentioned in 1 Peter 3:16-17. The inference is conduct.

The headship then becomes complacent nothing more. So once again I disagree with your assessment. Salvation comes within. The messengers such as the GB or the POPE have no mystical powers to save your soul other than spiritually feeding their flocks, thus shifting the responsibility to us.

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How much sediment would have been moved in Noah's flood?

by Zoos in

i flew over this crate yesterday on my return home from las vegas.. .

they say this crater was created by an asteroid about 50,000 years ago.

then about 6000 years ago, presumably, god wiped out all life on earth with a global flood.. how much sediment would have been moved around during that flood.

SimonSays

The assertion then is based on hypothetical. Archeology along with science would need a definitive answer to the point of origin. The same point of origin that eludes evolutionist. Given that conformity then becomes speculation.

Flood question:

How can any of us confirm that while the flood was accruing time and place meaning all living things just didn’t come to a standstill.

How can any of us know while the flood was accruing sediment didn’t change the structure of the earth, and thus having bodies or organic material placed elsewhere.

Evolution Question:

How can any of us confirm with absolute certainty the carter is an impact crater verse an outward explosion crater? An explosion crater would answer some of the question of orbital plants within our solar system by which man has been confirming with possible life Bactria within our system.

If man can answer these few simple questions, then man would be in a better position to absolute..

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What are Some of your best JW Questions they can't answer?

by 1tMakesNoSence in

i made a thread on reddit regarding questions jw's can't answer.

was wondering what you guys can add to it..

SimonSays

When theology was introduced in to the classroom, they assumed wholeheartedly the concept of translation. However every religion including active witnesses here, lack one important component.

Perhaps one day you will see with clarity the validity of scripture to many of your doubtful thoughts.

Access definition:

1.

A means of approaching or entering a place.

"The staircase gives access to the top floor"

synonyms:

entrance, entry, way in, means of entry; More

approach, means of approach

"the building has a side access"

The right or opportunity to use or benefit from something.

"Do you have access to a computer?"

2.

An attack or outburst of an emotion.

"I was suddenly overcome with an access of rage"

Control Definition:

1.

The power to influence or direct people's behavior or the course of events.

"The whole operation is under the control of a production manager"

synonyms:

jurisdiction, sway, power, authority, command, dominance, government, mastery, leadership, rule, sovereignty, supremacy, ascendancy; More

Was Daniel aware or was he made aware, and who came to their aid.

King Nebachudnezzer

Daniel 3:17

17 We might be thrown into the blazing furnace. But the God we serve is able to bring us out of it alive. He will save us from your power. 18 But we want you to know this, Your Majesty. Even if we knew that our God wouldn’t save us, we still wouldn’t serve your gods. We wouldn’t worship the gold statue you set up.

King Darius

Daniel 6:16

16 Then the king gave orders, and Daniel was brought in and cast into the lions' den. The king spoke and said to Daniel, "Your God whom you constantly serve will Himself deliver you." 17 A stone was brought and laid over the mouth of the den; and the king sealed it with his own signet ring and with the signet rings of his nobles, so that nothing would be changed in regard to Daniel.…

I wonder what would be more painful. Being burned or mauled to death. Did Shadrach, Meshach, or Abednego come to Daniel’s aid? Who came to Daniel’s aid?

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Is it possible that you were raised in a false religion?

by snare&racket in

jw
friends

do you believe in islam?

there are 1.6 billion muslims.

do you accept the pope as gods representative on earth?

SimonSays

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607 BC Discussion - JW Podcast

by God_Delusion in

hi guys & gals,.

we finally get to tackle the 607 bc debate in our last show of the season.. please leave any comments here and let us know if you agree or disagree with any of the points we brought up about 607 bc.. http://www.jwpodcast.org/2015/05/24/s01e14-607-bc/.

love,jaymes.

SimonSays

Well anyways, I do disagree with some of the data presented on podcast. I did however find it entertaining. When I get these 2 books that elude me due to finances to confirm or deny my theory, I will ask the question again about 607BC. If I’ll be allowed that is. Thanks V.I. and truthseeker100 for your input.